Should we teach others to rebel against standards?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Look, forget the cornflakes, and the waffles.

Let's talk about color font.

It is killing my eyes. I can't read what you are posting.

Do this

there is a bubble which when your posting is highlighted you can wrap a quote around the text. It will be much easier than color font which is LITE GREEN?

Brother, please forgive me! I know not what I do.

Explain to me how to do this? I am willing to change. I actually changed to green, hoping that would be better for you. What is this about a bubble?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Brother, please forgive me! I know not what I do.

Explain to me how to do this? I am willing to change. I actually changed to green, hoping that would be better for you. What is this about a bubble?

on your control bar when you are replying to someone. There are selections which start with a bolded B

The 14th icon is a bubble (looks like the talking bubble in a comic) highlight whatever you want to quote and hit the bubble icon.

Or you can cut and paste the poster's name [QUOTE=Tithesmeister;1527312] and use that with an [ /QUOTE ] at the end of what you want to quote. In this way you will be able to show the discussion between yourself and the poster.

[Tithesmeister]

[QUOTE=Evang.Benincasa;1527313]on your control bar when you are replying to someone. There are selections which start with a bolded B

The 14th icon is a bubble (looks like the talking bubble in a comic) highlight whatever you want to quote and hit the bubble icon.

Like this?

Or you can cut and paste the poster's name

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

and use that with an [ /QUOTE ] at the end of what you want to quote. In this way you will be able to show the discussion between yourself and the poster.

Okay. Let me give that a try.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, did you proof read what you posted over in the Glorious Church thread?
If you mentioned those words in the same story sentence to my wife, she would of shut you down like K Mart. Dirty old man? Bro, I know you were trying to give an example, but you didn't have to go there. As far as the cohabitating, naked in cornflakes, and a slew of other oddities you proclaim. That's all on you, you made yourself preaching material, don't blame me if I wave it under your nose when you get all pious and Biblical on us.

But I didn't go there. I quoted a man who claimed to be a pastor, bishop, and elder who served the church for over 30 years. He went there. I actually found his response appalling, and you're going to be upset with me over what he said?

That causes me to wonder if you agree with him.

Getting government out of marriages isn't the argument, but it has further implications which run from mild to wild.

This thread isn't about government free marriage by contract and common law. You can revisit it there if you wish. But I'm not going to elaborate on it beyond this post because now you're just trying to muddy the waters of this topic. It's a strategy you use almost repeatedly when someone builds a case against the time honored traditions that you love.

Government would still be able to set standards for legal contracts, just as it does now regarding other contracts.

my 14 year old daughter cannot get married to a 65 year old man, because of governmental involvement.

Actually, in states like Texas, she could if you signed off and the judge granted it. Remember, under the theory of government free contract marriage under common law, the government can set the standards for valid contracts. But the details of those contracts can be established by each couple, and perhaps even their families. Much like the Ketuvah in ancient Israel, and modern Judaism.

You want Biblical? If a girl is assaulted she is to marry the guy who assaulted her. Chris, your idea of going Biblical has limits which YOU set.

It is my understanding that the assaulted woman wasn't required to cohabitate with the man, nor to even give him children. Such women, in ancient culture, were typically considered damaged goods and their prospects for marriage were nearly non-existent. As a result, victims of rape often stayed at home caring for their parents. The man who violated her was required to pay her father the brides price, and was legally bound to provide for her material welfare for the rest of her life. If unable to afford the material needs of a second wife, the man was rendered financially incapable of marrying another. In short, you violate her... you have to provide for her for the rest of your natural life.

The notion that God's law forced a raped woman to marry and live with her rapist is repugnant to the notions of biblical justice.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Brother, please understand. I know you likely mean well. But if you put more confidence in the words of men, than you do the word of God, you are in idolatry.

This is written to the post you ended that way. Hopefully you won't act like we haven't already gone over this before!

I said to be in submission under the 5 fold
ministry numerous times now bro. The pastor, the evangelist, the prophet,and the teachers. I just see the other 4 as anyone can be acting in those offices at any time. Everyone is evangelist or can be, every one can be a teacher, I have heard of people with the title of prophet, but as I've seen it, that He can use different people in that office. That He may give someone the prophecy different times. The only one I see that doesn't rotate is the Pastor. So that's why I'm saying that. But whoever He's using you should obey God.

Now in John 10:2 the text says "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep."

Now when Jesus says in verse 7 "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep." If you notice He breaks this up, so I agree He's the good shepherd. But this is the fulfillment of Jeremiah 3:15 if you ask me"And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding." But as the Bible is clear in 1 Corinthians 11:3 "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."

While I'm not saying that Jesus is not the good shepherd, He also is giving shepherds to tend His flock according to the 5 fold ministry. His government.

Now I'm quoting you on this one "But if you put more confidence in the words of men, than you do the word of God, you are in idolatry." I want to make this clear, every bit of confidence I have in God's man is because of God. Not as a respecter of persons, but as respect until God and His way.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

on your control bar when you are replying to someone. There are selections which start with a bolded B

You have to leave my title name quote box and remove your's when you quote me. Also always remember to place the end quote box [/Q UOTE] at the end of what you are quoting. You did a great job and will get better as you figure it out.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You have to leave my title name quote box and remove your's when you quote me. Also always remember to place the end quote box [/Q UOTE] at the end of what you are quoting. You did a great job and will get better as you figure it out.

Thanks EB. I appreciate the help.

I probably won't get it right at first. Feel free to correct me.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

But I didn't go there. I quoted a man who claimed to be a pastor, bishop, and elder who served the church for over 30 years. He went there. I actually found his response appalling, and you're going to be upset with me over what he said?

Chris, do you think before posting? Bro, appalling isn't the word for it. Down right stupid, and even more so that you would post it again for everyone to read. When you thought it was appalling at that moment was the time to ditch it, and figure out another way to relay it to us. But, you also did this before in the dress thread. Which therefore would lead me to believe that you are either unwise, or a pervert yourself. I'll give you unwise, maybe even stump ignorant.

Originally Posted by Aquila

That causes me to wonder if you agree with him.

Then you save face with the above comment. You are pretty quick with turning the tables. It is a wonder how you still have all your teeth. But, think about it Chris, you post some inappropriate garbage at times. Do you remember where you suggested that we should have a certain room which couldn't be accessed by lukers where you could be "discrete?" You also mentioned that there where "Christian" forums where the members talked about smut in private? Sorry, no cookie, you have failed to accuse me of sin, and therefore you can contemplate this on the tree of woe. SMH.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Thanks EB. I appreciate the help.

I probably won't get it right at first. Feel free to correct me.

Practice makes perfect.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

This is written to the post you ended that way. Hopefully you won't act like we haven't already gone over this before!

I said to be in submission under the 5 fold
ministry numerous times now bro. The pastor, the evangelist, the prophet,and the teachers. I just see the other 4 as anyone can be acting in those offices at any time. Everyone is evangelist or can be, every one can be a teacher, I have heard of people with the title of prophet, but as I've seen it, that He can use different people in that office. That He may give someone the prophecy different times. The only one I see that doesn't rotate is the Pastor. So that's why I'm saying that. But whoever He's using you should obey God.

Now in John 10:2 the text says "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep."

Now when Jesus says in verse 7 "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep." If you notice He breaks this up, so I agree He's the good shepherd. But this is the fulfillment of Jeremiah 3:15 if you ask me"And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding."

While I'm not saying that Jesus is not the good shepherd, He also is giving shepherds to tend His flock according to the 5 fold ministry. His government.

Now I'm quoting you on this one "But if you put more confidence in the words of men, than you do the word of God, you are in idolatry." I want to make this clear, every bit of confidence I have in God's man is because of God. Not as a respecter of persons, but as respect until God and His way.

Do you see a pastor and an elder as equals? Just curious. EB said that an elder could act as a pastor or in other ways, which I agree with. An elder is not listed in the five-fold ministry. What are your thoughts on this?

What is the definition of the elder?