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Originally Posted by mfblume
Yes a word study dictionary. The word for giants itself does not say DIVINE BEING. A lexicon is dealing solely with definition. You don't see the difference?
Look up SON OF GOD and tell us what your "dictionary" says.
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You seem to not understand how Bible dictionaries work. They define terms and then show you where
Even English dictionaries define terms and then give examples. Here, I will quote more BIBLE Dictionaries, real ones not Strongs concordance which only gives how the KJV translated it
but Im not sure why I have to do this all again. I already spent several weeks on the word and it's later uses and parallels
Remember, we were discussing the word Nephilim meaning Giants, not 'divine beings'. You poopoo'd that one little facet to ignore the definitions
1) and נְפִלִים Gn 64: נפל, tantum pl.; SamP. (an-)nēfīləm; MHeb. נָפִיל giant, DJD 1:36:16, 3: ]נפילי בש; and JArm. נְפִילָא giant, monster, deformed baby; MHeb. pl. + בֶּן salamander; JArm. pl. Orion; נפל MHeb. hif. and JArm. af. to abort: giants, arising from miscarriages or hurled down from heaven (Koehler Mensch 38) :: H. Gese Vom Sinai zum Zion (1974):11047: those who have fallen heroically in a battle, the giant-like early inhabitants of Palestine Nu 1333aβ (gloss, which links them with the עֲנָקִים, GnAp 2:1; Fitzmyer GenAp2 81), with a mythical origin Gn 64, Sept. γίγαντες (A. Schmitt ZAW 86 (1974):152f); Morgenstern HUCA 14:76ff; Albright Steinzeit 295; Humbert Fschr. W. Vischer 70ff, 76; Reicke-R. Hw. 1601; Stolz BZAW 118 (1970):97; Westermann BK 1:510f. †
Koehler, L., Baumgartner, W., Richardson, M., & Stamm, J. J. (1999). The Hebrew and Aramaic lexicon of the Old Testament (electronic ed.) (709). Leiden; New York: E.J. Brill.
2) †נְפִלִים n.m.pl. giants, according to 𝔊 γίγαντες, so 𝔖𝔙; הַנְּפִלִים Gn 6:4 (J), הַנְּפִילִים בְּנֵי עֲנָק מִן־הַנְּפִלִים Nu 13:33 (JE); 𝔊 om. בְּנֵי וגו׳, and so Di; these words perhaps doublet, but already in Sam., also 𝔙 (etym. dub.; cf. Aramaic נִיפְלָא, נְפִיּלָא Orion; conject. v. in Thes Di ad loc.; Tuch Kn Len i, 344, 345 f.; Che . iii (1887), 175, 176; all very precarious).
Brown, F., Driver, S. R., & Briggs, C. A. (2000). Enhanced Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon (electronic ed.) (658). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems.
3) only in pl. נְפִילִים m. giants,
Gen. 6:4; Nu. 13:33. So all the ancient versions (Chald. נִפְלָא the giant in the sky, i.e. the constellation Orion, plur. the greater constellations). The etymology of this word is uncertain. Some have compared نَبِيلُ, نَبِيلَةُ, which Gigg. and Cast. render, great, large in body; but this is incorrect; for it means, excellent, noble, skilful. I prefer with the Hebrew interpreters and Aqu. (ἐπιπίπτοντες) falling on, attacking, so that נָפִיל is of intransitive signification. Those who used to interpret the passage in Genesis of the fall of the angels, were accustomed to render נפילים fallers, rebels, apostates.
Gesenius, W., & Tregelles, S. P. (2003). Gesenius’ Hebrew and Chaldee lexicon to the Old Testament Scriptures (556). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.
4) & נְפִלִים Gn 6:4:—1. cj. binfilîm for bifilîm
Ex 21:22 miscarriage, but open to qn.;—2. giants, produced by miscarriages or thrown out of heaven; gigantic early population of Palestine Nu 13:33aβ, of mythical origin Gn 6:4; ϝ comm. †
Holladay, W. L., & Köhler, L. (2000). A concise Hebrew and Aramaic lexicon of the Old Testament (241). Leiden: Brill.
5) Strongs too says Giants. 5303. נְפִיל nephîyl, nef-eel´; or
נְפִל nephîl, nef-eel´; from 5307; prop., a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:—
giant.
Strong, J. (2009). Vol. 2: A Concise Dictionary of the Words in the Greek Testament and The Hebrew Bible (79). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.
6) 5872 נְפִילִים (nep̄î·lîm): n.pr. [oth n.masc.pl. ]; ≡ Str 5303; TWOT 1393a—LN 93-pers. (gent.) Nephilim: a renown race of giants (Ge 6:4; Nu 13:33+), note: whether this race was a spirit-human race, or godly-ungodly race is debated among theologians
Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Hebrew (Old Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
7) 1393a נְפִילִים (nĕpîlîm) giants, the Nephilim (
Gen 6:4;
Num 13:33, only).
While some scholars attempt to relate this term etymologically to nāpal I via the noun nēpel “untimely birth” or “miscarriage” (as productive of superhuman monstrosities), a more likely reconstruction is the proposal of a root nāpal II, akin to other weak verbs, pűl II “be wonderful, strong, mighty,” pālāʾ “be wonderful,” and even pālâ “separate, distinguish,” pālal “discriminate.” This pattern of semantically related groups of weak verbs with two strong consonants in common is a notably recurrent phenomenon in Hebrew lexicography. Actually, the translation “giants” is supported mainly by the LXX and may be quite misleading. The word may be of unknown origin and mean “heroes” or “fierce warriors” etc. The RSV and NIV transliteration “Nephilim” is safer and may be correct in referring the noun to a race or nation.
Fisher, M. C. (1999). 1393 נפל. In R. L. Harris, G. L. Archer, Jr. & B. K. Waltke (Eds.), Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (R. L. Harris, G. L. Archer, Jr. & B. K. Waltke, Ed.) (electronic ed.) (587). Chicago: Moody Press.
NOW, to understand WHY this word is connected with Giants, you need to go back through this topic and read what I posted before about this word and it's use in scriptures
But here is a little teaser to read and consider
Num 13:32 So they brought to the people of Israel a bad report of the land that they had spied out, saying, "The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people that we saw in it are of great height.
Num 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them."
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