Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Without the curse aspect, nothing is wrong with tithing whatsoever.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Nothing wrong with having my son circumcised either, but no spiritual value to it.
There is spiritual value to any kind of giving in faith. Like I said, tithing is fine without a curse associated with it. In fact, tithing in faith is spiritually profitable and will give blessing. I proved it in my life.
Baptism in Jesus' name without faith has no spiritual value, either.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
We know those that promote tithing money tend to discriminate against those that don't.
This is the absolute truth. Look at the attitudes shown here by pro-law keepers versus grace believers. Those who pushed tithing did so with some venom and poison. Too bad some would rather be guilty before God than be led by the Spirit.
__________________
-All over the world, I see Apostolic revival and reformation breaking forth. We are seeing the end time dichotomy, both the falling away and great revival. May it continue throughout the lands.
Bro. William M. Price
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfblume
There is spiritual value to any kind of giving in faith. Like I said, tithing is fine without a curse associated with it. In fact, tithing in faith is spiritually profitable and will give blessing. I proved it in my life.
Baptism in Jesus' name without faith has no spiritual value, either.
This is not to doubt your experience or blessing in any way but we here this type of testimony all the time in that "I know that tithing has to be right because I tithe and I the Lord blesses me." Just as many testimonies could be spoken by non-tithers in that "God blesses me because of my giving." Therefore this argument is mute. I believe any blessings received are the result of ones' attitude of heart and the depth of sacrifice made. As the bible says, "God loves a cheerful giver."
Can you prove that you're receive blessing because you are giving a certain percentage rather than your just giving cheerfully in general?
__________________
This world is not my home, I'm just a passing through.
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrum
This is not to doubt your experience or blessing in any way but we here this type of testimony all the time in that "I know that tithing has to be right because I tithe and I the Lord blesses me." Just as many testimonies could be spoken by non-tithers in that "God blesses me because of my giving." Therefore this argument is mute. I believe any blessings received are the result of ones' attitude of heart and the depth of sacrifice made. As the bible says, "God loves a cheerful giver."
Can you prove that you're receive blessing because you are giving a certain percentage rather than your just giving cheerfully in general?
I "know" tithing is wrong, because I stopped tithing and later got the biggest raise of my career.
__________________
Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnTraditional
This is the absolute truth. Look at the attitudes shown here by pro-law keepers versus grace believers. Those who pushed tithing did so with some venom and poison. Too bad some would rather be guilty before God than be led by the Spirit.
Yes, I have learned that our words are an extension of our spirit.
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnTraditional
This is the absolute truth. Look at the attitudes shown here by pro-law keepers versus grace believers. Those who pushed tithing did so with some venom and poison. Too bad some would rather be guilty before God than be led by the Spirit.
As I've said before, I'm pro-tithing; so, yes, please, examine my posts and my responses. I'm here to participate in a discussion and appreciate the posts from those who want to have a discussion, whether they agree or disagree with my viewpoint on tithing.
However, I think you'll find that there is plenty of "venom and poison" being spewed from those opposed to tithing. It is definitely not one-sided, and it's not ladened with grace.
Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfblume
Without the curse aspect, nothing is wrong with tithing whatsoever.
Consider this: tithing with any strings attached (whether to avoid a curse or to obtain a blessing) is wrong; the entire focus of our attitude in tithing is to honor God. Any string attached to the tithe brings the focus back to the giver.