BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Wilsonwas

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"purifieth", ongoing always. Who is perfect enough to judge on this earth now. Certainly I am not.....do you think you are?

OK, let's do this one more time.

1 John 3:3

And everyone having this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

To the people the first century writer was writing to he indicates that they were expected to reach the fullness and stature of Christ Ephesians 4:13. They were also to be in the unity of the faith. Nothing indicates that the process was constantly ongoing like a dog chasing its own tail. Matthew 5:48
You however are to be complete, as your Heavenly Father is complete. Which can also be translated as "you however are to be finished, as your Heavenly Father is finished. This is the Greek word τέλειός which my wife would use on my daughters when she had enough, she would sternly say τέλειός!!!!

The Greek τέλειός means brought to its inevitable end, completly finished, fullness of time, mature. Yet, this isn't taught in Dispensationalist churches which mostly are Calvinist. Which teaches that man cannot possibly live for God, t be able to be as Christ is, pure, and righteous. The scripture says they that measure themselves by one another and compare themselves with one another, are without understanding. Therefore you and I are not the standard in which we ask each other "how am I doing?" The measurement and stature we are to attain in this life is Christ. 1 John 3:7 nails it down, whether you believe that you have to die and go to heaven to get some spiritual lobotomy. Or become a spiritual Stepford Wife after you die and resurrect. Void of your own free thought, and choices. 1 John 3:7 holds a warning to the new convert that they were to let no one deceive them. The deception was that let no man tell them that they couldn't be as righteous as Jesus Christ. The Christian nation has a promise that they can attain what Jesus has to offer in this life. That we can be a righteous nation in His name Isaiah 26:2

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

How would a "Christian Reconstructionist civil government" deal with Christians like me who deny that any earthly civil government is our final authority, including any so called "Christian" government? And who also preach against it being the "kingdom of God", and that it is just a Protestant "beast" power, no different than the other tyrannous religious governments of the past?

Ask you to leave, right?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ask you to leave, right?

No prosecution for heresy or sedition?

Would they allow for us to form communities that are exempt from your version of biblical law?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No prosecution for heresy or sedition?

Would they allow for us to form communities that are exempt from your version of biblical law?

Does the current system allow you to form a community exempt from state and federal law? Does ANY system just allow people to do as they please? The answer is no.

So as usual your cavils are just that - mere cavils.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ask you to leave, right?

There comes a point at which a body must expel the parasitic pathogens that infect it, or else the body dies.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No prosecution for heresy or sedition?

Would they allow for us to form communities that are exempt from your version of biblical law?

Aquila that would be like you telling the elders of your once attended house church that not only are you leaving the house church. But you and your peeps will be having church in the their bathroom.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

There comes a point at which a body must expel the parasitic pathogens that infect it, or else the body dies.

But of course, hence Paul and Jesus explain the path which the offenders can exit. Matthew 18:15-17, 1 Corinthians 5:1-2, Romans 16:17-18.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Aquila that would be like you telling the elders of your once attended house church that not only are you leaving the house church. But you and your peeps will be having church in the their bathroom.

I see what you're saying, but what would a CR government do to those who preach that it is as much of a "beast" to be resisted as any other and that it is NOT the "Kingdom of God"?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I see what you're saying, but what would a CR government do to those who preach that it is as much of a "beast" to be resisted as any other and that it is NOT the "Kingdom of God"?

Criminal anarchy is still a crime under federal and state law.

What you want is to live in a society that does not follow God's Word at all. You want a liberal, leftist, socialist utopia. Sweden awaits you.

[Esaias]

Progressives (what used to be called communists) argue against their host society. They demand the right and liberty to work to overthrow the existing system, whatever it may be. Yet, no society except late 20th century America and western Europe ever tolerated such nonsense.

This is part of the reason we are in the mess we're in. We have tolerated those who are working to overthrow our culture and society.

If someone like Aquila wants to march in the street for sodomite rights screaming that God's law is of the devil he can go right ahead. And be promptly arrested and either tried or deported for treason.

Just like he thinks Christians ought to be treated. He did, after all, declare on this forum that Christian theonomists are enemies of the state and a threat to national security.