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Old 06-14-2007, 11:49 AM
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Let's say that I know a particular history about George Washington... and you have been taught a different history about the same George Washington.

Then 200 years later, if your family refers to him as George and my family refers to him as Georgie... even if we have different ideas about him.... isn't George and Georgie still the same person?
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:51 AM
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D4T,

I am late to the party.. I apologize!

While I understand that there are men who seem to fill a particular office in the 5 fold ministry, I am of the opinion that every minister should, at various times, be used in all 5 offices of the five fold ministry as the need of the body, the church, dictates. Every minister should be apt to teach, to pastor, to evangelize, to prophesy, and to operate as an apostle or establishmentarian (just for AtlantaBishop)

What is your opinion on my view?
I agree with your take. I don't think there is any person who ministers in one capacity will not have some ability to minister in another capacity as well.

My experience has been that there are some who think themselves Pastors who would have done better to continue evangelizing etc.

But... I also believe that, while I have been a shepherd to some down the road, I am foremost a teacher. Along those lines, while I do recognize the ability of various ministers to operate in the other ministries, I do believe that each of us has a key calling that our lives have designed us for.

I do feel that there should people whose key ministry should be that of a prophet as well as people whose key ministry should be that of an apostle.

I think that in todays church the end all-do all is that of the pastorate. Many (or most?) evangelists do what they do with the plan to one day finally get that pastorate.

And then with the thought that one can move in several ministries then todays end all-do all could possibly be looked on to be the apostle, the prophet, the teacher, the evangelist as well as the pastor.

I think that if the importance that is stressed on each ministry and the frequency in which each ministry is at work in the local church were correlated to a drawing of the five fingers of the hand that we would see one very malformed extremity.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:51 AM
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Let's say that I know a particular history about George Washington... and you have been taught a different history about the same George Washington.

Then 200 years later, if your family refers to him as George and my family refers to him as Georgie... even if we have different ideas about him.... isn't George and Georgie still the same person?
In that instance, yes. I could possibly believe in your theory except for Jesus Himself. Allah and Jesus cannot both be God. Jesus taught men and women non-resistance in religion. Allah teaches jihad.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:51 AM
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I haven't seen Ray ANYWHERE in quite a while.

Is she okay?
Im doing fine, friend. I always look out for your posts here, Digging. I lurk an awful lot more than I post
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:53 AM
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Im doing fine, friend. I always look out for your posts here, Digging. I lurk an awful lot more than I post
Infidel!
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:56 AM
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Hmmm, I will try that next time I slam my finger in the door.

"Oh, Buddha!"

I believe that Allah is still God, just in a different language since they are talking about the same God of Moses...
Why not try "Oh, evolution!!"
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Im doing fine, friend. I always look out for your posts here, Digging. I lurk an awful lot more than I post
Even on your own forum. LOL

Glad to hear you are doing well.

I miss chatting with you.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:57 AM
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Infidel!
You called?
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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Even on your own forum. LOL

Glad to hear you are doing well.

I miss chatting with you.

I really must do something about that I'll see you there!

Definately miss chatting with you too
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In that instance, yes. I could possibly believe in your theory except for Jesus Himself. Allah and Jesus cannot both be God. Jesus taught men and women non-resistance in religion. Allah teaches jihad.
The jews don't believe in Jesus either but it is still the same God that they worship... even if their way is wrong...
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