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03-29-2012, 01:27 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
I really think we need to pay attention to this in regards to Obama.
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03-29-2012, 01:41 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I really think we need to pay attention to this in regards to Obama.
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True.
I am finding this Joe Oliver interview very informative, balanced, and moving.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...Do-Right-Thing
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03-29-2012, 02:09 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Did you see Lawrence O'Donnell's interview with Zimmerman? It was brutal and hateful. O'Donnell and a black commentator were yelling at him. Totally horrid. They were trying to say he wasn't really a friend of Zimmermans. Oliver never said he was his best friend. He said he has known him since he met his wife, six years and knew him enough to defend him. They were trying to make him appear totally irrelevant to the story.
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03-29-2012, 02:18 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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JD,
Zimmerman is a neighborhood watch man appointed by his community that is 60%+ minority, why would the police arrest him before the facts are fully investigated. We don't know what the police would have done? Why? Because they had to button down the hatches and defend themselves for the attack of the media and the outrage of the public before they had time to sort everything out. They have been at a terrible disadvantage to do their investigation. How could anyone do their work with that pressure.
Oh, BTW, by the latest police video, it appears that Zimmerman was arrested. Just maybe the facts did not provide enough evidence to continue to hold him. Or maybe the continuing investigation will provide evidence that will be presented to a grand jury. Do you trust the current police chief, should we trust him? He is black, will he just bow to the pressure of Al and Jesse??? Do you see how that feels?? Not good, is it?
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Dude,
the media circus didn't begin until a full three weeks after this young man's death.
It is common knowledge that in MOST cases when a crime of the magnitude of murder is potentially committed, the alleged perpetrator is remanded until the grand jury-- usually as a public safety precaustion.
The perpetrator has a criminal record.
The teen did not.
It would have been impossible for the Sanford PD to have access to this young man's school records so they didn't have the prejudicial knowledge of the plastic bag with traces of weed in his book bag.
They had a dead boy and his killer was a guy who already had a criminal record and they took the word of the criminal that night.
No, the Sanford PD did not execute due diligence or practice good judgment that night.
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03-29-2012, 02:27 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
I thought they practiced good judgement,did I not see a video bringing him in with handcuffs on...they had all intentions of arresting him,but they could not cause of a little thing called (evidence),so yes they were going to arrest him,but could not...
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03-29-2012, 02:36 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Dude,
the media circus didn't begin until a full three weeks after this young man's death.
It is common knowledge that in MOST cases when a crime of the magnitude of murder is potentially committed, the alleged perpetrator is remanded until the grand jury-- usually as a public safety precaustion.
The perpetrator has a criminal record.
The teen did not.
It would have been impossible for the Sanford PD to have access to this young man's school records so they didn't have the prejudicial knowledge of the plastic bag with traces of weed in his book bag.
They had a dead boy and his killer was a guy who already had a criminal record and they took the word of the criminal that night.
No, the Sanford PD did not execute due diligence or practice good judgment that night.
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Jermyn,
They took him to the police station in cuffs. His story was backed up by a witness. You can even hear him screaming for help on a 911 call. They obviously didn't have anything to hold him on.
This typical of the MSM and their racist, sensationalism.
This is what MSNBC puts up from Zimmerman's call to the Dispatch:
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“This guy looks like he’s up to no good … he looks black,” Zimmerman told a police dispatcher from his car. His father has said that Zimmerman is Hispanic, grew up in a multiracial family, and is not racist.
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This is the exact wording from that call:
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ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, [begin ellipsis] or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
911 DISPATCHER: Okay, is this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic? [end ellipsis]
ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.
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Zimmerman never initiated the conversation toward race.
The MSM needs to stand down and stop this. I'm not certain this is not being instigated by the White House.
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03-29-2012, 02:50 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Dude,
the media circus didn't begin until a full three weeks after this young man's death.
It is common knowledge that in MOST cases when a crime of the magnitude of murder is potentially committed, the alleged perpetrator is remanded until the grand jury-- usually as a public safety precaustion.
The perpetrator has a criminal record.
The teen did not.
It would have been impossible for the Sanford PD to have access to this young man's school records so they didn't have the prejudicial knowledge of the plastic bag with traces of weed in his book bag.
They had a dead boy and his killer was a guy who already had a criminal record and they took the word of the criminal that night.
No, the Sanford PD did not execute due diligence or practice good judgment that night.
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That's the first I have heard of Zimmer having a record??? He was remanded at the scene, however the police seemed to lacked evidence of murder, to hold him. Also, apparently he was not a flight risked, that is under the media stirred up the public.
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03-29-2012, 02:52 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
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Don't confuse ABC with THE facts, they have their own!!
Last edited by crakjak; 03-29-2012 at 03:00 PM.
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03-29-2012, 02:54 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
Crackjak Zimmerman had gotten in trouble in the past I forgot what for,but I am sure it's out there on the net... I don't know if he still has a so called "record" or not.
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03-29-2012, 02:57 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I really think we need to pay attention to this in regards to Obama.
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Consider the following quote, from Tuesday, March 27 (video below):
I’m not here just for George. I’m here for my kids. I’m here for every other young black man. I understand why everybody is upset. If I didn’t know George, I’d be upset, too. If I didn’t know what I know, I’d be just as outraged. But once this is all over, we still have to address the problem that has brought us to this point in the first place, and that’s the fear that we have of each other, the fear that we have of young black men...We’ve got a black president, and yet we continue to stereotype young black men. I get that. We’ve got to continue this conversation after this is over, because it goes beyond Trayvon and George...This particular incident, this confrontation between Trayvon and George, had nothing to do with race. But because of our racial history, because of Sanford’s racial history, that’s why we’re at where we are now...I’ve got an 18-year-old son. My heart goes out to the Martins. I am a black man. Like my friend George, I’m just trying to do the right thing.
Those were the tearful words of Joe Oliver, who has been defending his good friend Zimmerman in the midst of the media frenzy over Martin’s terrible death. Oliver is pleading with the public to consider, patiently, the facts of this particular case, without letting them be overwhelmed by broader--and valid--issues about race.
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