Apostolic Feminists - Page 35

Barb · #**341** 03-31-2007, 05:36 PM

I could only see a few seconds of the clip because I have dialup...it keeps buffering too badly to view it.

However, I can say that everyone to their opinion...a raised voice in the heat of anointing is one thing, but I am not a fan of screaming in the pulpit, regardless of whether it is a man or woman...JMHO...

Felicity · #**342** 03-31-2007, 05:42 PM

I've heard many women speak and preach and share their burden. Some of them have been HUGELY impacting, but none of the women that I can think of who I've heard in person has ever acted in a masculine unbecoming manner. I can think of so many women from Vesta Mangun to Evangeline Rodenbush, Thetus Tenney, Micky Mangun, Nona Freeman, women from my own district - so many - and none of them acted out of order or unbecoming. They didn't scream, stomp, or act masculine in any way

I DID watch the JS clip and I don't like all that I saw and certainly don't agree with everything I heard.

Newman · #**343** 03-31-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

I've heard many women speak and preach and share their burden. Some of them have been HUGELY impacting, but none of the women that I can think of who I've heard in person has ever acted in a masculine unbecoming manner. I can think of so many women from Vesta Mangun to Evangeline Rodenbush, Thetus Tenney, Micky Mangun, Nona Freeman, women from my own district - so many - and none of them acted out of order or unbecoming. They didn't scream, stomp, or act masculine in any way

I DID watch the JS clip and I don't like all that I saw and certainly don't agree with everything I heard.

I have heard a couple of male ministers (in a lifetime) that I would prefer not to have heard. Uncouth comes to mind.

But there is no way I would get on the internet and say so. God's Word can flow from any vessel He chooses. Who am I to judge them (and publically to boot)?

Unless of course, I am the minister that has the choice of whom to invite to the pulpit and I recken that would be a private decision.

Truly Blessed · #**344** 03-31-2007, 05:52 PM

It seems to me that what is being said when one encourages women to "develop themselves" is that they should be self focused instead of being focused on building a relationship with their husband. It sounds like worldly philosophy to me.

If a man is marrying a woman for her body and beauty, he is not marrying her for love, but for lust. If that is the basis for the union, it won't last. It won't be long before he will be looking for another object for his lust. Unfortunately that sometimes leads one into pornography.

I would like to believe that although I was only 21 years old when I married, that I was not "stupid" as some women seem to think most men are, but rather that I was smart enough to recognize the amazing qualities of my bride to be and how her gifts would be such a great compliment to my life and ministry. It was a bonus that she was both beautiful and possessed a great body!

Scott Hutchinson · #**345** 03-31-2007, 05:56 PM

My wife does have a body, and beauty but I do love her.

Scott Hutchinson · #**346** 03-31-2007, 05:57 PM

TB,you need to go grocery shopping,eh.

Newman · #**347** 03-31-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

It seems to me that what is being said when one encourages women to "develop themselves" is that they should be self focused instead of being focused on building a relationship with their husband. It sounds like worldly philosophy to me.

She was talking to 15 year old girls about what is going on here and now from what I could tell. Girls who don't develop beyond primping all the time (shallow) tend to attract men of similar calibre.

Girls who have confidence in themselves above and beyond their looks; tend to attract much better husbands. So the message seemed timely to me.

Newman · #**348** 03-31-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

I would like to believe that although I was only 21 years old when I married, that I was not "stupid" as some women seem to think most men are, but rather that I was smart enough to recognize the amazing qualities of my bride to be and how her gifts would be such a great compliment to my life and ministry. It was a bonus that she was both beautiful and possessed a great body!

Talk is cheap. How many young men date fat women? Few and far between.

Rhoni · #**349** 03-31-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

It seems to me that what is being said when one encourages women to "develop themselves" is that they should be self focused instead of being focused on building a relationship with their husband. It sounds like worldly philosophy to me.

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Although this may appear to you to be the truth, I have to disagree here. I find it difficult to believe that a man who loves his wife would limit her to supporting him, his ministries, and his activities without also encouraging her to do the same. The Bible teaches mutual submission and love and respect between spouses. To say that one is narcissistic when pursuing one's own goals and dreams to the sacrifice of her relationship to her spouse is a bit chauvenistic, not to mention narcisstic on the man's part don't you think?

If a man is marrying a woman for her body and beauty, he is not marrying her for love, but for lust. If that is the basis for the union, it won't last. It won't be long before he will be looking for another object for his lust. Unfortunately that sometimes leads one into pornography.

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I'd have to agree here!

I would like to believe that although I was only 21 years old when I married, that I was not "stupid" as some women seem to think most men are, but rather that I was smart enough to recognize the amazing qualities of my bride to be and how her gifts would be such a great compliment to my life and ministry. It was a bonus that she was both beautiful and possessed a great body!

I may be wrong but I tend to think of you as one who is extremely intelligent and picked your wife on the basis of love, attraction, and are supportive of her developing the talents, skills, and ministries that you originally felt an asset to your ministry and your life.

One does not/should not have to choose between one's spouse and one's ministry. It is great when you can be supportive of each other and your ministries compliment each others.

Respectfully, Rhoni

seguidordejesus · #**350** 03-31-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb

I could only see a few seconds of the clip because I have dialup...it keeps buffering too badly to view it.

However, I can say that everyone to their opinion...a raised voice in the heat of anointing is one thing, but I am not a fan of screaming in the pulpit, regardless of whether it is a man or woman...JMHO...

Barb, I have dialup, too. What I do to watch youtube is start the download, then hit pause on it. It'll continue to load, and I just do something else in the meantime, then I watch it when it's finished. Hope that helps.