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Old 07-23-2008, 03:59 PM
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I don't support MURDER. I'd report this post if the Admin didn't tell me to stop.

Tell me...realistically, what will the Government do to police and punish abortion and the women who procure them?

The Government is incapable of addressing this issue. It's too complex. To say that we support only allowing it to preserve the life or health of the mother sounds good....but that means the Government has the power to decide what constitutes a life or health threatening condition. Think of it like this....it's your wife on the table....the doctors are divided over if it is advisable to have an abortion. Who's best capable of making the decision...you and your wife...or the Government?

I tell you what offends me. Your willingness to use the "its too complex" argument about abortion, but in the same breath you would support government control of healthcare in general.

that is just plain acinine.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:00 PM
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I think you are highly offended way too easily.
offence is a political tool of the left. why wouldnt he be offended? It works repeatedly for liberals.
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Those who use abortion wrongfully will live with the guilt and shame and answer to God. Again, the Government isn't capable of addressing this properly.
lets go with that punishment for the guy who kills his estranged wife.
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Aquila you are the one who said you were pro choice. NOT ME. (and honestly until Rico piped up I didnt even know he was pro choice).

that is YOUR view not mine. so you need to come to grips with your own issues. Im quite confident in what i believe. thank you very much.

it is offensive to me that someone would discount the reality that the vast majority of abortions are for birth control and suggesting that over turning Roe equates to jack booted government agents siezing a woman and forcing her to die in child birth.

i am quite comfortable standing by my statment. if you are pro-choice you support abortion. That is EXACTLY what I said. if it offends you, I suggest you re-evaluate your postion. Again, if you dont get the dicotomy of your position, that is your issue. not mine.
I'm not "Pro-Abortion". I'm "Pro-Choice" meaning the Government cannot be trusted with regulating this issue. It's incapable of addressing this issue.

Let me ask you...how will the Government police and penalize women who procure abortions?
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I think I'm gonna do like Thad used to do, and start me a list!!!!

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Abortion, is the taking of an innocent life. In my book it is murder, and those who think women should be allowed to kill their children are complicit.
Shooting school kids with a gun is murder. Those who get the guns do so as part of their "gun rights". Would it be far to say that those who support gun rights are complicit in school shootings?
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I'm not "Pro-Abortion". I'm "Pro-Choice" meaning the Government cannot be trusted with regulating this issue. It's incapable of addressing this issue.

Let me ask you...how will the Government police and penalize women who procure abortions?
thats like being pro-scrambled eggs but not pro-cracking eggs.

what ever.
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I'm not "Pro-Abortion". I'm "Pro-Choice" meaning the Government cannot be trusted with regulating this issue. It's incapable of addressing this issue.

Let me ask you...how will the Government police and penalize women who procure abortions?
That first statement is silly.

Simple you proscute the doctors who do it.
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I tell you what offends me. Your willingness to use the "its too complex" argument about abortion, but in the same breath you would support government control of healthcare in general.

that is just plain acinine.
I told you that I'd consider that government control of healthcare might not be a good idea if you consider that the government is incapable of properly addressing this issue too.

In all honesty...if we had government health insurance the government would be in a better position to regulate abortion. Consider Ireland.
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Shooting school kids with a gun is murder. Those who get the guns do so as part of their "gun rights". Would it be far to say that those who support gun rights are complicit in school shootings?
A big mistake is made here. You can own and use a gun and not do anything immoral. You cannot perform an abortion and not do something immoral.
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