You Can Fake It All

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Reader

No, saying someone is not capable of honesty is a very personal insult and was uncalled for. That means everything ILG says is a lie. You know this how?



She passed along something she was told in private. It did not mention anyone's name, neither a present nor a past admin. I would agree it probably should not have been posted, at least not in this discussion.



Is the first sentence related to the private message?

I don't agree that you censor everyone. I have not seen you do so. I will share that the repeating over and over in this discussion how you and a couple others are tired of anti-UPC discussions, made it difficult to discuss the OP. It could be seen by some as harassment.



I read everything posted in this discussion. I spoke up when ILG was being misrepresented in her OP and I spoke up when it appeared there could have been a wrong attitude about people falling into sin. Please show me where ILG said anything close to "Prax is incapable of honesty".



I have no beef with Admin. Yet as an admin, you help to set the example. If you are handing out personal attacks, what does that say to others? If the rules clearly state no personal attacks and an admin does it, then are the rules just for others and not admin? Some may feel this practice is acceptable since an admin did it. Another may feel that admin is bullying posters. Admin people need to have thick skin. They will always have people who will not be happy with them for one reason or another.

Things would have turned out much differently had you, and anyone else who felt this was an anti-UPC discussion, made one post stating such and let it go. Or better yet, have started a new discussion on the matter. Instead, this discussion has deteriorated to the extent that you are speaking of stepping down (I see no need of that.) and personal insults have ensued.

The reason it wasn't "let go", because of the replies. Don't forget it takes two to tango

[Reader]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW you friend is lying. We can't see PM. You have to HACK the program with a mod. Otherwise there is no built in feature to do that...look I'm tired of the false accusations and now you. We offered u the chance so you could have seen but now you join in the lies so I'm really done.

Every board program is different. On vbulletin, which is what AFF uses, PMs cannot be read unless the mod is added. (There are many mods that can be added to a vbulletin.) That is unless the PM goes out in an email. Emails sent through the board go in a special folder all together with anything admin would send to everyone and the notifications anyone received when a new post is made. To look for PMs and emails that way for a board this size would be an undertaking, but not impossible. If that folder is regularly deleted, then anything up to that point would be gone. The only people that would have access to this folder would be those who can access the account through whatever hosting service is used. Also, anyone with access from the hosting service would be able to see the folder. In other words, this folder does not show in the moderator or admin section of the board.

As to Prax editing ILG's post, I see nothing with malicious intent. Yet considering what has transpired in this discussion, it would have been best to let any formatting error remain or ask a different admin to make the change and state in the change the reason for the edit.

[Praxeas]

No other Admins seem to be active. I have been correcting broken quotes for years and did it because I have nothing to hide. I won't be doing it anymore.

[Reader]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

I try not to drink caffeine before I come here.

This is funny!

[Disciple4life]

Seriously when I first came here somebody said I was bashing the UPC. I wasn't but after rereading my comments I saw how it could be taken that way.

So I look at this forum like I am a guest. I try to be considerate of other people's feelings but still be honest about how I feel on certain subjects.

This forum is a great place to hang out. Does everybody agree on every subject? NO but what is the fun in that!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

Seriously when I first came here somebody said I was bashing the UPC. I wasn't but after rereading my comments I saw how it could be taken that way.

So I look at this forum like I am a guest. I try to be considerate of other people's feelings but still be honest about how I feel on certain subjects.

This forum is a great place to hang out. Does everybody agree on every subject? NO but what is the fun in that!

I've said this before but the problem for me is not that someone bashed the UPC or points out something negative. Its that its a constant constant occurance particularly by the same people. I have been Critical of the UPC at times and don't agree with everything

[n david]

This one time, someone privately told me something that a certain someone did something which I can't prove, but publicly telling the private conversation is good enough to cause suspicion and cast unwarranted, untrue accusations against others.

Just sayin'

[Reader]

As I stated previously, perhaps the rules of the board need some tweaking? Perhaps others need to be added to the admin staff if you are the only one around?

[Disciple4life]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I've said this before but the problem for me is not that someone bashed the UPC or points out something negative. Its that its a constant constant occurance particularly by the same people. I have been Critical of the UPC at times and don't agree with everything

I get where you are coming from. I got saved in a UPC church. I am glad and happy that the pastor and the church was there for me. The pastor went through hard times so that I had a place to come to and hear the Apostles Doctrine. Is every UPC church perfect? No but I am glad the UPC exist. I don't want a nuclear bomb to go off at the headquarters.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Reader

As I stated previously, perhaps the rules of the board need some tweaking? Perhaps others need to be added to the admin staff if you are the only one around?

Nobody wants to Admin. Nobody wants to tweak the rules.