Donald Trump Calls for Obama Birth Certificate

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by sandie

What about when John McCain's birth place was questioned? Did you find that hateful?

It's really bothersome when someone can't oppose, disagree, or even be curious without being labeled full of hate.
As Christians, we should be aware that is a very serious charge and be able to know for 100% fact that is the case. Otherwise, we've bared false witness.

I supported McCain/Palin, I've heard people say things about Palin that make this whole BC thing pale in comparison, yet I won't charged them with "hate", unless they say so.

Sandie,

If it we were still about 3 weeks or maybe even 3 months in to the discussion, then your response holds weight.


Trump pulled this out a full 3 years after it has been generally accepted by most rational people that the President is a natural-born citizen, based off of the certified true copy of his birth certifiicate that he made available over 3 years ago.


This is why the label of hate comes out.

Trump's use of this is dirty politics at its worst, appealing to the folks on our side who aren't in the least bit rational.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Sandie,

If it we were still about 3 weeks or maybe even 3 months in to the discussion, then your response holds weight.


Trump pulled this out a full 3 years after it has been generally accepted by most rational people that the President is a natural-born citizen, based off of the certified true copy of his birth certifiicate that he made available over 3 years ago.


This is why the label of hate comes out.

Trump's use of this is dirty politics at its worst, appealing to the folks on our side who aren't in the least bit rational.

As Christians, the argument of accusing others of hate wihtout full proof, instead of conjecture, still holds weight.

Are you just accusing Trump of hating the president? I was not just referring to Trump, it seems the charge is being laid at the feet of anyone who questions anything about this president.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by sandie

As Christians, the argument of accusing others of hate wihtout full proof, instead of conjecture, still holds weight.

Are you just accusing Trump of hating the president? I was not just referring to Trump, it seems the charge is being laid at the feet of anyone who questions anything about this president.

I used the word "foment" in one of my earlier posts on this thread.

Trump's obsession with this dead horse foments irrational hate and groundless suspicion.

Trump has plainly stated that he does not hate the President.
He has also plainly stated that he thinks that President Obama is taking America in the wrong direction.

If he does not like the direction Obama is taking our country, then he should run.

His appeal to the birther conspiracy adds a bit of legitimacy to a stupid rumor that attempts to deligitimize President Obama. Someone of his stature should not lend any legitimacy at all to this hateful rumor.

Trump's appeal to the birther conspiracy takes away from his legitmacy as a Presidential candidate.

[Jermyn Davidson]

The whole thing is obsurd!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Furthermore,

There are PLENTY of people (Republicans, Democrats, non-politicos) who question the politics and decisions of our President who choose to not to resort to the birther junk.


Christians, Trumps and anyone else who care to engage in a thoughtful discourse about the President should do so, without refering to LIES that some in their HATE for this President tend to gravitate towards.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I used the word "foment" in one of my earlier posts on this thread.

Trump's obsession with this dead horse foments irrational hate and groundless suspicion.

Trump has plainly stated that he does not hate the President.
He has also plainly stated that he thinks that President Obama is taking America in the wrong direction.

If he does not like the direction Obama is taking our country, then he should run.

His appeal to the birther conspiracy adds a bit of legitimacy to a stupid rumor that attempts to deligitimize President Obama. Someone of his stature should not lend any legitimacy at all to this hateful rumor.

Trump's appeal to the birther conspiracy takes away from his legitmacy as a Presidential candidate.

You know I am more than sick and tired of the "hate" thrown out every time someone disagrees with you. (you not being just Jermery)

ENOUGH ALREADY!

There are a LOT of people that do not buy into his legit status as an American citizen. There is more that says he is not than says he is. IMO

That does NOT mean I hate Obama. I don't trust the man at all!!!!

[canam]

Ther are some people who wont believe it even if its proven to them that he is not a US citizen or even that he is Muslim.As far as im concerned its already been proven that he isnt a US citizen because he took student aid only available to foreign students.Case closed.!

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Furthermore,

There are PLENTY of people (Republicans, Democrats, non-politicos) who question the politics and decisions of our President who choose to not to resort to the birther junk.


Christians, Trumps and anyone else who care to engage in a thoughtful discourse about the President should do so, without refering to LIES that some in their HATE for this President tend to gravitate towards.

Hi Jermyn,

Sadly it seems you've made up your mind that this issue stems out of hatred.
Nobody can change your mind on that I suppose. However, I hope you understand how it can be very offensive to those who are accused of this most serious charge.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Esther

ENOUGH ALREADY!

[coadie]

Originally Posted by sandie

Hi Jermyn,

Sadly it seems you've made up your mind that this issue stems out of hatred.
Nobody can change your mind on that I suppose. However, I hope you understand how it can be very offensive to those who are accused of this most serious charge.

That is how liberals try to win arguments when thay have no facts to win with. They accuse of 3-4 things. 1 Lying, Hatred (foment), 3 racism 4 Birtherism.