You sure like to bring up the past and remind people of all that the Lord has done for them. You should beware of dipping your hands into the river of forgetfulness.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
I happen to think the Affirmation Statement was PUSHED by these ultracon wackos who would have stomped off with their marbles in '92 if they hadn't gotten their way at that time. The ministers who left for reasons of integrity were simply being HONEST, not wanting to lie or act dishonestly by signing their names to a statement that did not reflect their core values and beliefs. I still believe that forcing ministers to sign an Affirmation Statement is comparable to David's sin of counting the people. What a HUGE MESS.
So the Ultracons got their way and it seemed to placate them for a while. It puffed up their egos, so they went back to their districts and proceeded to backbite and snipe at their fellow UPC ministers from their ivory holiness towers for a few more years.
Now they have found an issue that was supposedly the LAST STRAW. But Res. 4 isn't really and truly THE ISSUE, is it? The issue is that they have been conspiring to do this for YEARS. Their behavior in this matter has been disingenuous and subversive.
If they don't appreciate the direction the UPCI is taking, that's fine. It's great that these guys are leaving to form their own org. But why not forthrightly state your reasons for leaving, state your intentions clearly, form your new org. and move on down the road. Instead they are fighting dirty...
Why not turn in your license immediately if you disagree so strongly with the UPCI's newly adopted amendment to the MANUEL??? Influencing fellow ministers to jump on board your sparkling new ship by offer positions or by using scare tactics or peer pressure...well, it just looks fishy. It looks like they are trying to do damage to the UPCI...
Is that a good thing???
bump for Dora
Pastor G, Are you seein' this? Holy Wow!
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
Thad is this list accurate? I only see the Executive Committee members listed at the website, not the General Committee members.
Ferd, today for lunch I ate at a hole in the wall Thai place, Ka Pow was my lunch of choice with a heat rating of 5!
You missed it Bro! Hey when are you going to take me out to eat sushi?
This has to happen. however i am getting poorer by the second with baby number 2 on the way. pm me with some contact numbers!
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Seriously, I have recently made some comments about this that were sharp. I see a number of names listed that I know are good men. Men that I respect. No doubt they are doing what they are doing because they believe it is right.
However, CS, I suspect that you know as well as I do that in this list of 50 odd names, there are some who want power. I pray the good guys figure out which is which.
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Question for the sake of curiosity....yesterday, when this thread was new, you could go to their website and these 49 elders were listed under the executive committee...last night, after this thread was posted, those 49 "General Committee Members" are no longer where they were on the website....WHY?
I have not been able to find them again....can you?
BUMP!!!!!
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
Someone is watching and apparently did not want those names out yet or those names were not accurate and they took some heat for having them up.... not sure which but thats the general thought I believe
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