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09-15-2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Really? Because your first post really seemed to be more about what the church has done and is still doing to ABUSE women.
In fact, there isn't any reference at all in your post to the church "helping" abused women. Its all about women being persecuted by the church.
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Again Miss. Why are you so defensive. The purpose of this whole forum should be to help. Spiritually speaking if we have the H.G. and there is a Satanic attack against women, don't you think we should help> Please.
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09-15-2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Aren't those the stock colors in those vehicles for women Pastors ?
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Someone needs to tell those women pastors that the "power" cars are sleek and black with a little cat on the hood.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
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09-15-2007, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JaneEyre
I was immediatly convicted of my silly post and deleted it.
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Girl I just funning with ya.Your alright ,if I like you I pick at you.
It's my redneck way of being friendly.
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09-15-2007, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
Again Miss. Why are you so defensive. The purpose of this whole forum should be to help. Spiritually speaking if we have the H.G. and there is a Satanic attack against women, don't you think we should help> Please.
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Perhaps because this isn't the first time this conversation has come up, and from some posters, its the same ol' same ol'. Blech.
It is in Satan's best interest to attack ALL Christians, not just women. Do you really believe that Satan is only attacking women? In our church right now we have two men fighting cancer, several working multiple jobs to support their families, men who have lost children...men who struggle with all kinds of things in their lives.
How arrogant would I have to be, as a woman, to say that they are not engaged in spiritual warfare on a daily basis?
I just don't like this thread. *Note The Big Scowl On My Face*
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-15-2007, 10:15 PM
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I am submissive I never argue with my wife,I just say alright honey you win.
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09-15-2007, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Perhaps because this isn't the first time this conversation has come up, and from some posters, its the same ol' same ol'. Blech.
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I don't think we've approached it from a macro historical view as proposed by CH ... beginning w/ the Church fathers ....
Again the thread took a turn when the patrolmen "smelled a rat" in their opinions
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09-15-2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I don't think we've approached it from a macro historical view as proposed by CH ... beginning w/ the Church fathers ....
Again the thread took a turn when the patrolmen "smelled a rat" in their opinions
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I missed the "smell a rat." I read the first post, and skimmed a few other...interesting...ones. (to be polite)
I am all for discussing the plight of women from a Christian perspective. Until the male-bashers arrive. I have a husband and son. I love them too much to allow such nonsense to stand as if it has substance.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-15-2007, 10:20 PM
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Rat as in rat now ?I was good in skewl at spelling.
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09-15-2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
It irritates me that it is assumed that since I abide by fairly conservative Apostolic views, that I must not do so of my accord, that it has been foisted off upon me, and either I am too stupid to know that I have been duped, or too brain-washed to care.
I find that point of view to be the arrogant one.
It is also irritating that my husband is viewed as abusive, simply because he believes that he has an authoritative role in our home, a role which is supported by scripture.
Someone causing me offense is NOT the same as persecution. If it were, there are a few women here who are guilty of persecuting me.
Someone disagreeing with my views or being unsupportive of my views and lifestyle is NOT persecution. If it were, many here would be guilty of persecution.
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There is a big difference from being authoritative and being authoritarian.
Authoritative is one who disciplines when there is need for discipline but does so in a caring and nurturing way, whereas, authoritarian is one who controls and manipulates with an iron hand just because he can.
Authoritarian leadership/headship is primarily those who are rigid and manipulative for self-serving purposes which is abusive in nature. It is very healthy and Godly to be authoritative and take the leading role as a safety and covering for women and children.
Sounds like you have a very Godly husband and you are fortunate.
Blessings, Rhoni
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09-15-2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
No, no, NO, Scott! You have it backwards. THOSE are the women who have finally succeeded in teaching those jerks a thing or two. THEY have risen above the persecution to fulfill the roles God willed for them! The brow-beaten men are getting what they deserve, after centuries of oppressing their women. Any men who complain are whiny wimps who should sit down and shut up and submit to the women. After all, we are supposed to be "mutually submissive."
*gag*
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This is an excellent post that cuts the ideological heart out of Apostolic feminism (which this thread reveals to be a very real problem).
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