***Another NAYC bombshell: Apostolic Steppin' for Jesus

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

Still waiting for the scripture the establishes practice for dancers in worship. Surely, it must be there.

And, just because things are done decently and in order does not necessarily mean 'rehearsed beforehand', or it would then be necessary for all the gifts of the Spirit to be rehearsed (so, would you please inform Jesus that He needs to change how He does things when He comes to visit with those who gather in His Name?)

Still waiting for the scripture that establishes a "no practice" rule for dancers in worship.

[BreakingFree]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

Still waiting for the scripture the establishes practice for dancers in worship. Surely, it must be there.

And, just because things are done decently and in order does not necessarily mean 'rehearsed beforehand', or it would then be necessary for all the gifts of the Spirit to be rehearsed (so, would you please inform Jesus that He needs to change how He does things when He comes to visit with those who gather in His Name?)

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by BreakingFree

Hey BreakingFree, thanks for quoting and bolding this post. You sparked a new thought from this portion...

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

And, just because things are done decently and in order does not necessarily mean 'rehearsed beforehand', or it would then be necessary for all the gifts of the Spirit to be rehearsed (so, would you please inform Jesus that He needs to change how He does things when He comes to visit with those who gather in His Name?)

Someone should have told those people in Jerusalem that there wasn't any "scriptural support" for their worship as they laid garments down and waved palm branches as Jesus rode into Jerusalem.

[BreakingFree]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

And, just because things are done decently and in order does not necessarily mean 'rehearsed beforehand', or it would then be necessary for all the gifts of the Spirit to be rehearsed (so, would you please inform Jesus that He needs to change how He does things when He comes to visit with those who gather in His Name?)

Originally Posted by LadyRev

Hey BreakingFree, thanks for quoting and bolding this post. You sparked a new thought from this portion...


Someone should have told those people in Jerusalem that there wasn't any "scriptural support" for their worship as they laid garments down and waved palm branches as Jesus rode into Jerusalem.

LOL. Good point Sis!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

Still waiting for the scripture that establishes a "no practice" rule for dancers in worship.

There is no verse ...

Originally Posted by LadyRev

Ah so I missed ONE previous scripture. I'll give you that one. I goofed up the search by missing a form of the word.

Even so, the point remains the same. There is nothing wrong with "rehearsed" dancing or "unrehearsed" dancing.

And...just because the world or sinners do something doesn't mean the church or christians can not do the same.

As for David, I never said he "rehearsed" his dance.

The point in mentioning David was in reference to comments about "dirty" dance moves and individual perception.

David's wife had a different perception. She criticized David's dancing and was punished by God for her criticism. Likewise, your perception of "stepping" is negative but others do not have the same perception. As for God's opinion, that remains to be seen now doesn't it?

If someone can worship God in "Steppin", who are we to criticize?

Hey, no problem if you missed a verse. If there's one thing I know about the UPC, it is that they will allow you to keep your license, so long as you pay your dues, regardless of how well you might or might not know your Bible.

Now, for my original point, as it was vehemently INSISTED earlier in this thread that the idea of choreographed singing and musicians is extended to dancing. It is not. Also, good king David, the man who gave us the OT 'song book' of Psalms, set in order the singers and musicians by course, yet he didnt' bother with dancers. I would certainly expect that he would take care of this, if it was to be such a big part of temple worship. However, the only things I find listed as practiced, choreographed, and scheduled, were the singers and musicians. All those other forms of worship David speaks of in the Psalms, ie, clapping the hands, lifting up the hands, the dance, the shout, appear to be left in the realm of INDIVIDUAL expressions of praise and worship.

Originally Posted by LadyRev

Would you please show me where Jehoshaphat's singers did nothing more than sing, saying what they were instructed to say?

The BIBLE says they sang AND they praised...praise, includes dancing.

Can you show me where they DIDN'T dance as they PRAISED the beauty of holiness?

According to scripture, they didn't just simply "sing".

II Chronicles 20:20-22
And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.
And when he had consulted with the people, he appointed singers unto the LORD, and that should praise the beauty of holiness, as they went out before the army, and to say, Praise the LORD; for his mercy endureth for ever.
And when they began to sing and to praise, the LORD set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten.

Dear sister, like it or not, scripture interprets scripture. How did they praise? By saying, Praise the LORD; for his mercy endureth forever.

[BreakingFree]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

Hey, no problem if you missed a verse. If there's one thing I know about the UPC, it is that they will allow you to keep your license, so long as you pay your dues, regardless of how well you might or might not know your Bible.

Because adherence to outward appearances and rules is more important?

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by BreakingFree

Because adherence to outward appearances and rules is more important?

more important many times that what is right and wrong, just do what i say so to speak, and forget intellectual honesy and christian liberty, good point breaking free, dt

[BreakingFree]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

more important many times that what is right and wrong, just do what i say so to speak, and forget intellectual honesy and christian liberty, good point breaking free, dt

Yup. And I was just asking. This is not to suggest that is what is more important to Lady Rev, because clearly it is not. I guess after seeing her youth group as compared to the ones around here, and hearing her preach, I took exception to that comment. Seemed like a low blow and unnecessary to say the least.