Anger + Sadness = RAGE

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Just read this on Twitter - "Once again, I apologize on behalf of Texas for Sheila Jackson-Lee. She's opining about Zimmerman. I'm sorry y'all."

Some people just ain't right.

[Cindy]

Another idiot heard from in this mess.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/...015514123.html

Spike Lee apologized on Wednesday for retweeting a tweet thought to contain Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman's address that turned out to be an elderly couple's residence.
Lee wrote:
I Deeply Apologize To The McClain Family For Retweeting Their Address. It Was A Mistake. Please Leave The McClain's In Peace. Justice In Court

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It's interesting that those who support Zimmerman are asking us to wait for the full facts to come out. The more facts I hear and the more I sort out the pieces of the case, the more I'm convinced the Zimmerman belongs in jail.

If my child were walking around the neighborhood and a stranger started following them--first in a vehicle and then presumably on foot--I would EXPECT them to either run or fight. Otherwise, they would be forgetting everything I've ever taught them.

We are being told that Treyvon beat up Zimmerman and then was shot, but what we don't know is whether or not Zimmerman approached Treyvon in an aggressive or threatening way (and provoked a physical reaction). Being followed is enough to provoke someone into being defensive at the very least. And yeah, if you're a 17 year old boy, then defending yourself could cause a broken nose. Unfortunately, fists are no match for a gun.

Zimmerman should have taken his truck home, put on his pajamas and put himself to bed when the 911 operator said to stop following the kid. There's no way he could have been "attacked" if he hadn't gotten out of his truck at SOME point and disobeyed the instruction from the operator. 100% wrong from that point on.

As for the "hoodie" twist; my kids wear hoodies ALL. THE. TIME. Sarah wears hers with the hood UP even when it's warm because she's thin and almost always cold. I would hate for someone like Zimmerman to see her with her hand in her pocket (feeling around for Skittles), assume she was a threat to the neighborhood and take her out.

If a girl had been shot, Zimmerman would probably be sitting in jail on murder, attempted kidnapping, assault and harassment charges. Because Treyvon is a teenage boy (and worse, one from a minority group), he was perceived as being a threat, and many people see that PERCEPTION as legitimate. Therefore they are less upset about his death than they ought to be.

@tstew: It seems impossible to not be biased to some extent. I'm annoyed by the media's persistence in calling Zimmerman white. It's deliberately incendiary. The rest of the story, though, I've looked at from a parenting perspective, and if that were MY son or daughter, I would be enraged. I'm sure I would want some vigilante justice of my own.

@Pressing-On: If your son was being followed by someone, first in a vehicle and then on foot, you would expect him to stop and carry on a conversation with this person who carries NO badge or other official identification showing that he is an authority figure? You would expect THAT and not running or self-defense? REALLY? I think I know you better than that. You would expect your son to either get OUT of that situation ASAP or, if the person got too close, to defend himself by whatever means necessary. Personally, I think you need to carefully consider why you think that Treyvon should have stopped and had a conversation with a strange man who had no authority to stop or detain him whatsoever. Coming from a politically conservative point of view, that fact alone should put you in Treyvon's corner. NO ONE except a police officer or other member of local law enforcement has the right to stop, detain, or use deadly force against my kids--and even law enforcement better have a REALLY good reason to do so. And even with a REALLY good reason, I expect them to use the least amount of force necessary to control the situation.

You make many assumptions, Miss B.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Just read this on Twitter - "Once again, I apologize on behalf of Texas for Sheila Jackson-Lee. She's opining about Zimmerman. I'm sorry y'all."

Amen!!!

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I find your post strange. I could not tell anything in that grainy video, and saw no medical examination at all.

SOME head injuries bleed alot - especially cuts, but not all. Concussion, contusions, and fractures very often have little bleeding. Guacamole beating? - I think he prevented that.

Hoovie, There are claims out that Zimmerman told police this:

"News reports that cited anonymous police sources said Zimmerman told police that Trayvon decked the neighborhood watch volunteer and slammed his head on the concrete."
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...veillance.html

The video really wasn't that grainy, we can see at the very least no obvious serious injuries that would suggest his head was bashed into concrete.

The video is more consistent with the police report which records minor injuries and the information coming out that paramedics did not suggest he go to the hospital.

There is also more information coming out about the fact that one of the detectives suggested that the D/A press charges on Zimmerman. According to the mother of the 13-year-old witness, a police officer came to question her son and told her he was convinced that Zimmerman wasn't acting in self-defense.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-self-defense

My post may have seemed weird, but this case is getting very strange.

[Dagwood]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

UH-OH.... THIS JUST IN:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/georg...lance-16024475

We now have video of what Zimmerman looked like when the situation was over and (btw) paramedics had cleaned him up.

This doesn't look like a guy that just had the guacamole beat out of him by a 200+ ibs monster. Granted he PROBABLY DID have a head injury. Probably was showing some blood. Head injuries do bleed a lot. In the video you can see an officer checking Zimmerman's head. However if it was cleaned up easily without him being taken to a hospital I can assure you it wasn't bad. There doesn't seem to be any bandages (Zimmerman claimed he broke his nose, doesn't look like it), no frontal injuries. No blood on clothes, no grass stains on back (even though it might be the camera for that).

This is all really strange...

In the midst of a thread like this, with the issue of race so blasted in our face from the media, you chose "had the guacamole beat out of him" in your response. SMH...

[KWSS1976]

Well now we have the video of zimmerman the night he was arrested and MSNBC failed to see the policeman looking at the back of zimmermans head once he was searched and also the policeman wiping his hand on his pants leg after touching the back of zimmermans clothes which clearly line up with the report and Zimmermans story. I wish folks would stop making this so one sided...The police report said Zimmerman was cleaned up in the police car and that video was 4 hours after the incident. My son has gotten bloody nose before and not gotten it on his clothes so it is possible to get a bloody nose and it not get on your clothes.

[Hoovie]

Zimmerman's father interviewed.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...rman-interview

[Dagwood]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Zimmerman's father interviewed.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...rman-interview

I saw that on my local Fox affiliate here in Dallas.

Let's just say I was less than impressed since he, along with his family, are basically in fear of their life...all because fearmongering has run rampant with some certain political/racial groups involved with their one-sided, narrow point of view.

Have all the details been released? No, they haven't. Yet, Sharpton, Jackson, Spike Lee, and even one of Texas' "finest" reps (Sheila Jackson Lee, not my rep), has gotten involved.

Like a swarm of flies on dog mess, it's absolutely ridiculous.

I don't know all the details myself, and I certainly don't claim to. But, with the alternative reporting sites I'm pulling my info from, it's no wonder these silly little groups of people are drowning the streets. They're nothing but sheeple taking the news media/politicians for every word they say without thinking for themselves and putting the puzzle together...

[KWSS1976]

You know the police have pictures they have taken while on the scene,so those have yet to surface,but when they do I bet those will be a game changer for sure. If the police do not have any pictures then they did not do there job correctly. I have no doubt if the police are sticking to there story they have evidence to back it up they just are not bringing it forward yet....