Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit. - Page 33

Mr. Smith · #**321** 09-29-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Where did I ask? go read it again.

I didn't say "I know alot of black guys" Go read again.

I think you missed the whole point I was trying to make, but that could my fault.

Post #264:

"UMMMM A persons race comes into play when discussing race stuff, you know biasness and stuff.

I don't know the stats but have come across alot of black gays.".

coadie · #**322** 09-29-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

There's no way I would say, "I told you so." What would be the point? You've stuck your neck out there already. I'm not. I'm waiting to see what happens and I'll believe in him until proven otherwise. That's the same way I'd treat you if you were accused of something. Love believes all things and hopes all things. I'm believing him and hoping for him. It's the natural response of love.

You don't believe the victims. No love in their direction?

Truthseeker · #**323** 09-29-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Post #264:

"UMMMM A persons race comes into play when discussing race stuff, you know biasness and stuff.

I don't know the stats but have come across alot of black gays.".

I'm sorry, I misread your post, I thought you posted I wrote "I know alot of black guys" I worked all night til this morning, that's my excuse.

My point that I was trying to make is homosexuality is not a just a white thing. May have not been a good attempt.

Truthseeker · #**324** 09-29-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

There's no way I would say, "I told you so." What would be the point? You've stuck your neck out there already. I'm not. I'm waiting to see what happens and I'll believe in him until proven otherwise. That's the same way I'd treat you if you were accused of something. Love believes all things and hopes all things. I'm believing him and hoping for him. It's the natural response of love.

I do think we need to be careful making quick judgements on things like this. like I told someone at work I don't think he's guilty nor innocent, I don't know.

ManOfWord · #**325** 09-29-2010, 10:20 AM

I just hope Long is more innocent than Tiger Woods, Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, etc, etc, I'd like someone to show me where one of these types of situations has hit the media and it turns out that the alleged victims were all lying!

So, my "prognostication" is based upon past events not my hope of either guilt or innocence. I hope the guy is innocent. However, all my belief and hope and faith in this situation is worthless.....whatever happened has already happened and no amount of prayer is going to change that. I can't pray for his innocence and neither would I dare pray for his guilt! I wouldn't wish that on anyone! I only pray for truth to be paramount because only truth sets us free.

You're right Coadie, I guess that means that I hope the alleged victims are all filthy rotten scum bag liars? Hmmm...how does that fit?

Mr. Smith · #**326** 09-29-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I just hope Long is more innocent than Tiger Woods, Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, etc, etc, I'd like someone to show me where one of these types of situations has hit the media and it turns out that the alleged victims were all lying!

So, my "prognostication" is based upon past events not my hope of either guilt or innocence. I hope the guy is innocent. However, all my belief and hope and faith in this situation is worthless.....whatever happened has already happened and no amount of prayer is going to change that. I can't pray for his innocence and neither would I dare pray for his guilt! I wouldn't wish that on anyone! I only pray for truth to be paramount because only truth sets us free.

You're right Coadie, I guess that means that I hope the alleged victims are all filthy rotten scum bag liars? Hmmm...how does that fit?

The Duke LaCrosse situation. It was 100% made up and the DA, as well as others, were fired over it.

There are also MANY girls who have claimed traumatic rape who later recanted. Recently in our area, a college scholarship athlete was arrested, accused of organizing a gang-rape, lost a season of eligibility, was eventually kicked off the team, lost it all. The girl, under pressure eventually, admitted she was making it up because she had been late for curfew and feared punishment from her father.

It happens a lot.

Mr. Smith · #**327** 09-29-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I'm sorry, I misread your post, I thought you posted I wrote "I know alot of black guys" I worked all night til this morning, that's my excuse.

My point that I was trying to make is homosexuality is not a just a white thing. May have not been a good attempt.

No prob.

I understand your point. The point I had made was that, statistically, male sexual molestation is predominately a "white" crime.

Mr. Smith · #**328** 09-29-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

You don't believe the victims. No love in their direction?

I normally don't respond to you gibberish but since MOW gave validity to your post, I'll answer.

First, you don't know that they're "Victims." Second, they're making accusations that would GREATLY alter the composition of many lives, thousands of lives. Tens of thousands, actually. If something is said that would make a catastrophic upheaval in that many lives, I'm going to wait and see. I don't believe them or disbelieve them. But the principle I'm operating on is one of our basic American rights that you would request if you were accused, that we are all innocent until we're proven otherwise.

Truthseeker · #**329** 09-29-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

No prob.

I understand your point. The point I had made was that, statistically, male sexual molestation is predominately a "white" crime.

group Hug!

coadie · #**330** 09-29-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

I normally don't respond to you gibberish but since MOW gave validity to your post, I'll answer.

First, you don't know that they're "Victims." Second, they're making accusations that would GREATLY alter the composition of many lives, thousands of lives. Tens of thousands, actually. If something is said that would make a catastrophic upheaval in that many lives, I'm going to wait and see. I don't believe them or disbelieve them. But the principle I'm operating on is one of our basic American rights that you would request if you were accused, that we are all innocent until we're proven otherwise.

More clueless gibberish. This is Not a criminal trial.

This is a civil case. Your education limits seem to stand in the way. They are asking for damages. Not a criminal verdict. The question is if there was damage done.