Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

You forgot Priscilla, didn't you?

Unless you think she just sat by as her husband taught those people and the Bible is wrong when it gives her credit for the same........

Nope. Never did forget Priscilla. And YOU said it; she sat BY HER husband. Of course she was part of that team. But it was a team. Never does the Bible say she was an elder.

Remember, the the question of this thread is if a woman can be a 'preacher.' This is not about whether she can minister to another's needs or if she can be a witness. These are easily found as acceptable in scripture. But nowhere do we find a woman being used as an elder in the Church. That is the difference.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Can you show me an apostle after Paul? Can you show me where Paul appointed people specifically to those roles each and every time he sent someone to do a work?

I think it's funny that you and others claim that there were women that existed back in that day to work with and for Paul, but he had women fellowlaborers. Some of those women are named. Some are not, just like there are men who aren't specifically named.

How can you explain women who went to prison with Paul? They weren't thrown there for burning the food....

I don't have a clue what you are getting at with this. Sorry....

[nahkoe]

You've answered my first question now. lol Or at least given me enough of an idea of what you think that I think we agree with a slight semantics issue in there for fun.

I don't consider preaching as equal to elder or bishop. I'll have to study that awhile and see what I come up with. I've always considered preaching to be quite seperate from leadership. Preacher does not equal pastor, but a pastor can preach.

Thanks for the topic! I've been reading kind of aimlessly the last few days this will give me something to study.

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Nope. Never did forget Priscilla. And YOU said it; she sat BY HER husband. Of course she was part of that team. But it was a team. Never does the Bible say she was an elder.

Remember, the the question of this thread is if a woman can be a 'preacher.' This is not about whether she can minister to another's needs or if she can be a witness. These are easily found as acceptable in scripture. But nowhere do we find a woman being used as an elder in the Church. That is the difference.

[Sister Alvear]

The clue is those women were put in prison for just what the Bible says


preaching the word...the same reason others were put in prison...

Acts 8:3,4...


and I do not think any godly woman would be trying to take a man's place she would only being fulfilling a calling...GODLY women do not look or act like men.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Oddly enough, when referring to the office of a bishop, 'bishop' is a feminine noun.

Kinda blows the 'masculine words mean men only' theory, doesn't it?

Uhmm...so does the word "Church." Would you please tell us what all that means? Is there a difference or is it literal? Are you saying that only females can be leaders and members of the Church? P L E A S E!

There is much more going on here than the simple argument you are presenting. Study it out and you will see.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Let's follow your logic that when the Bible speaks about the bishop having one wife, and that means that only men can be bishops, that it's absolute, ok?

Now, read this verse:

Ex 20:17
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

That verse indicates that men are being instructed not to covet their neighbor's things. No mention of the neighbor's husband or anything belonging to the wife. How can we then tell women that they should covet their neighbor's husband when the Bible makes no such mention, only that they shouldn't covet the wife??

Oh wait, that's different, isn't it?

Firstly, that is YOUR logic, not mine.

Secondly, no offence intended, but if you really think this way, you really need to study more.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Then you must have a problem with single male ministers? The Bible mentions nothing about them, does it? I mean, 'must be' means they have to be married, not that it's an option.

Nope, never said that. We are talking about women preachers.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The clue is those women were put in prison for just what the Bible says


preaching the word...the same reason others were put in prison...

Acts 8:3,4...


and I do not think any godly woman would be trying to take a man's place she would only being fulfilling a calling...GODLY women do not look or act like men.

Sisiter, are you talking about leadership or speaking Truth? I am sure you know that there is a difference. To witness in the Word is not the same as being an elder in the Church.

[Sister Alvear]

Friend, Probably over the course of 40 years on the mission field I have done about everything...however MANY of those everythings were not my calling or job however there was no one to do it so I did.

I can only say how I PERSONALLY feel. I would rather a man lead but if God sent Deborah I would follow. At one time in my life I was single and started the work at square one so I did about everything that had to be done...when I married I called our people together and told them that Brother Alvear was the leader from that point on. I do not feel God called me or any other woman to lead Brother Alvear BUT if a woman came with a word from God and he felt she had the word he sure would let her speak God's word.

I don't want to to be misunderstood and it is so easy to on a forum...we do not see expressions or hears tones and usually do not know who we are speaking to.

I don't believe standing or not standing behind a pulpit will cause me to be saved or lost but I do believe I must tellthe story of Jesus.

The first church (book of Acts church) did not have buildings such as we have today and it was completely different.

Gifts and callings make room for themselves...No one not even a man has to be pushy...

I see the church in a different light than most so unless we could sit down and really talk I think you would not understand me.

I go to LOTS of churches that do not believe in women preachers...Up until today I have had no real problems...but I have not been beating pulpits trying to act like a man. I share with those who care to hear about missions for that is my calling.

I am content to follow my leader.

[Sister Alvear]

If a woman is called men will take notice...she does not have to blow trumphets to announce her arrival...