Do you think Two Church services a month is enough?

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by OGIA

I don't believe it for one second. You wouldn't be talking the way you are. Unless you're lying, that is.

I guess I meant damage from the words of others. I have been called every kind of backsliding, apostate, rebellious label that you could possibly imagine. (You should hear the ones I get from preachers when I mention that I don't believe in tithing )

How about this: sometimes you learn the most from the wilderness?

Even better

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by OGIA

How about this: sometimes you learn the most from the wilderness?

Originally Posted by Michlow

Even better

Well, when you get your carcass out of the desert I expect you to let me know what you learned, a'ight?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Actually Praxeas, you have hit on a very good point. A point which to me showcases the entire problem with the church. They are so focused on their building funds and programs they are not meeting the needs of the community around them. it's like they are so focused on the "church" (the organization, the building and all the stuff associated with it) and building their own kingdom that Jesus and his kingdom gets pushed aside.

Now, I know I sound critical. But I myself was guilty of that kind of attitude for a long time. In fact, this thread itself showed me that I am REALLY good at sitting around and talking about the problem, but not very good at finding a solution. And I finally realized that I need to BE the solution. I can't continue to go on and complain about what is wrong with the church and how the church isn't doing what I think Jesus wants it to do. No. I need to go out and myself do what Jesus is asking.

You were all right. Sitting at home is accomplishing nothing. So I need to find someway to go out and be Jesus to the poor, needy, hungry and lost in my community. And if I need to do it alone, then so be it.

A church is a community. It grows, it learns, it falls, it makes mistakes...it needs help. Why not be a part of a community somewhere and help them despite their faults....and yours? Pray for them. Pray for the Pastor. Show them what it means to be a caring giving unselfish person and minister to other members and to sinners?

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by OGIA

Well, when you get your carcass out of the desert I expect you to let me know what you learned, a'ight?

SIR, YES SIR!!!

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

A church is a community. It grows, it learns, it falls, it makes mistakes...it needs help. Why not be a part of a community somewhere and help them despite their faults....and yours? Pray for them. Pray for the Pastor. Show them what it means to be a caring giving unselfish person and minister to other members and to sinners?

Well, technically, I AM a part of a community. Just not enough of a part according to the majority of people on this poll

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

Agreed. But if you are in the building all the time how do you minister to those outside the building? As Michlow said there is a balance.




Jesus is the head of the body. How can I show up or not show up when I'm spiritually connected to the Head -- Jesus Christ -- except by not doing His will?

He is the one that commands the parts to do His will. Not all of His will takes place within the four walls of a building at all times.

How can you not? Please give a solid provable reason for why a church that is building (whatever that means) can't at the same time minister to those outside the building?

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by Michlow

SIR, YES SIR!!!

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

A church is a community. It grows, it learns, it falls, it makes mistakes...it needs help. Why not be a part of a community somewhere and help them despite their faults....and yours? Pray for them. Pray for the Pastor. Show them what it means to be a caring giving unselfish person and minister to other members and to sinners?

Well said, Praxeas!

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by OGIA

I just wanted to show that I COULD take orders when I wanted too. Make sure you point that out on the "obey them that Rule" thread

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Well, technically, I AM a part of a community. Just not enough of a part according to the majority of people on this poll

Biblically "Church" is a local congregation that meets regularly that is part of a larger global group sister.

That is what Church is. It's those members that make up a local congregation/community that are part of a larger global congregation/community. Are you part of a local community?