Is this becoming an EX-Pentecostal site?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

Bro,

I truly mean it though, because I usually know how a person is when I first meet them. I believe that you're an excellent pastor and I am not trying to puff you up, but it is something I seen in you that tells me this.

You are very kind, Brother, and I do appreciate the confidence.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Rico, I doubt if anyone would admit to being a control freak, especially if they were.

So there would probably be little value in my asserting that I am not one.

I think if you polled my saints you wouldn't find any of them who would describe me that way.

While there is certainly procedure in place in our bylaws to deal with the removal of a pastor, the reality is that as long as I preach the truth and stay clean morally, my "position" is very secure, because of the trust these very kind people place in me.

I am blessed not to have had to deal with much strife and infighting and conflict in the church I have pastored for ten years now.

I guess the Lord knew He needed to send me to a place where people were kind and easy to lead.

Well, for whatever it is worth, I believe you have a good approach to explaining your beliefs. I really don't consider myself conservative or liberal, but if I were interested in going back to a life without tv and some of these other issues, you are the kind of person I would be willing to give trusting a shot at being my pastor.

Originally Posted by revrandy

Once trust has been compromised it's hard to trust again...

Amen Bro!!! I had some red flags about this one pastor that I thought was me, but I found out that it was true. I had to give it to God and He took care of the issue.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Rico

Well, for whatever it is worth, I believe you have a good approach to explaining your beliefs. I really don't consider myself conservative or liberal, but if I were interested in going back to a life without tv and some of these other issues, you are the kind of person I would be willing to give trusting a shot at being my pastor.

I'm impressed... Good Post...

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

Amen Bro!!! I had some red flags about this one pastor that I thought was me, but I found out that it was true. I had to give it to God and He took care of the issue.

Not sure???...but


I know your being serious but the wording of this sentence has thrown me a bit....

Originally Posted by revrandy

Not sure???...but


I know your being serious but the wording of this sentence has thrown me a bit....

I noticed that I didn't put the wording right, so here is the explanation:

There was a pastor that I met and when I first saw him, there were red flags that was there, but I thought it was my flesh giving me red flags. After a while, I found out that the red flags that I was given, was correct. It was really sad for me, but I can't make a pastor to be honest and I won't try to make one to be honest. Does this explain it better?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

That is not always true.

Sad but it's true, Bitterness and Un-forgiveness is all about an absolute lack of Christian maturity. If someone is always taking everything personal then they will either get over it or internalize it and keep it in and produce a mantra that they bore everyone with or annoy everyone with.

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

WOW!!! Have you gotten a revelation. That is so awesome, but I wish more Apostolics would get this revelation.

Working out our OWN salvation is keeping the mindset that other members in the community cannot cause us to lose out if we keep the main thing the main thing.

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

I can blame it on people that have hurt me,

First you should ask yourself why? Forgive them Father for they KNOW NOT what they do, so if they don't know what's up then keep going forward.

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

especially in Apostolic churches,

That's because that is all you have as a religious experience, but I work with everyone from Mormon to Muslims that have been offended within their religious movements. Believe me people get offended because they're expecting others to be at some certain level that they are not. We place our stock in some guru or god man and we become messed up when the mask slips off our hero. Listen Jesus never did me nothing but good!

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

but I can also ask God to take care of it too.

So, why wait until the accident happens to get insurance, we are supposed to be getting our good stuff together before we trip over an obstacle. If you keep oil in your vehicle you won't blow your engine.

Originally Posted by WordPreacher

Of course there is drama in Pentecostal churches, so it is usually better than a soap opera. Drama, drama, drama.

What's the ratio of men to women in Pentecostal movement?


Lord bless you real good

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Many preachers put themselves in the position of middle man... a spokesman for God, an intermediary if you will... but when you try to hold them to a higher standard, then they claim they are just like everyone else...

So whose fault is that?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sad but it's true, Bitterness and Un-forgiveness is all about an absolute lack of Christian maturity. If someone is always taking everything personal then they will either get over it or internalize it and keep it in and produce a mantra that they bore everyone with or annoy everyone with.

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Working out our OWN salvation is keeping the mindset that other members in the community cannot cause us to lose out if we keep the main thing the main thing.

You actually think it is that easy? It's not and I thank God it is not that easy.

First you should ask yourself why? Forgive them Father for they KNOW NOT what they do, so if they don't know what's up then keep going forward.

The thing is that they knew what they were doing wrong, because it was brought to their attention and they ignored it. So, in that instance, it was not easy to forgive, because when you're having the experience, you will see how hard it is.

That's because that is all you have as a religious experience,

This is sad, but is also funny because you don't know the experiences that I have had. I don't have religious experiences, but I do have experiences that God has done in my life and I am thankful for what He has allowed me to go through.

What's the ratio of men to women in Pentecostal movement?

I don't know and it still doesn't change the drama that happens.

Lord bless you real good

He always does.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So whose fault is that?

Ummm, well, when someone claims to represent the supreme being of the universe, people are going to hold them to a higher standard based on the claim that that person has made...