This exchange is sad. Are either of you really hearing the other?
I hear T perfectly. It's just that he is refusing to believe one can believe the bible and see results due to his experiences as though he could not have made a mistake somewhere.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
So I was asking amiss? Was it selfish? "My own lusts?" Was it because I asked not?
Well, maybe my faith wavered. And maybe the faith of the hundreds of other people and every one of their thousands of prayers wavered, or were amiss, or whatever.
You tell me, Mike. Which of the loopholes did God use to deny our request?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I hear T perfectly. It's just that he is refusing to believe one can believe the bible and see results due to his experiences as though he could not have made a mistake somewhere.
I guess you missed this post:
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Of course I could have been "offkey"! I am a mere fallible human! And your God wouldn't grant this fallible human's request for some reason -- and I'm sure it was a very good reason -- and he won't even tell me where I went wrong! I don't think he has told my folks, either, when their prayers for my brother's healing of cancer failed, and those of many other family member's and friends'. There must have been thousands of prayers (and at least one "word form the Lord" that said he would be healed), and I'm not exaggerating. Were every one of them "offkey"? Did we not get what we asked for because we asked amiss? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
We have to read the totality of scriptures about the issue. You are avoiding some.
Jas 1:6 KJV But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jas 4:2-3 KJV Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. (3) Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
You forgot one.
1 John 5:14-15
And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
Maybe it's that simple. God did not want to heal my brother.
But I should love him anyway.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
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