Does no one accept responsibility any more?

[Tiberius Pantera]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

OK wise guy....how did they fund the government? They didn't have the income tax back then.

For the record...the founders were against taxation without representation...not all taxation or tarriffs.

it isnt how they funded the government that matters. it is what was done with the funds that count.

YOU represent something they would reject out of hand.

likely they would have had you tossed in a nut house.

Originally Posted by Tiberius Pantera

it isnt how they funded the government that matters. it is what was done with the funds that count.

YOU represent something they would reject out of hand.

likely they would have had you tossed in a nut house.

Who started the public school system and the post office? I'm just curious.

[ChTatum]

Grasshopper, your name is very ironic.

Aesop

The Ant and the Grasshopper
In a field one summer's day a Grasshopper was hopping about, chirping and singing to its heart's content. An Ant passed by, bearing along with great toil an ear of corn he was taking to the nest.
"Why not come and chat with me," said the Grasshopper, "instead of toiling and moiling in that way?"
"I am helping to lay up food for the winter," said the Ant, "and recommend you to do the same."
"Why bother about winter?" said the Grasshopper; "We have got plenty of food at present." But the Ant went on its way and continued its toil.
When the winter came the Grasshopper had no food and found itself dying of hunger - while it saw the ants distributing every day corn and grain from the stores they had collected in the summer. Then the Grasshopper knew: It is best to prepare for days of need.

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Grasshopper, your name is very ironic.

Aesop

The Ant and the Grasshopper
In a field one summer's day a Grasshopper was hopping about, chirping and singing to its heart's content. An Ant passed by, bearing along with great toil an ear of corn he was taking to the nest.
"Why not come and chat with me," said the Grasshopper, "instead of toiling and moiling in that way?"
"I am helping to lay up food for the winter," said the Ant, "and recommend you to do the same."
"Why bother about winter?" said the Grasshopper; "We have got plenty of food at present." But the Ant went on its way and continued its toil.
When the winter came the Grasshopper had no food and found itself dying of hunger - while it saw the ants distributing every day corn and grain from the stores they had collected in the summer. Then the Grasshopper knew: It is best to prepare for days of need.

Is this yet another personal insult or jab? I took the name from a conversation Baron and I had in another thread.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Grasshopper, your name is very ironic.

Aesop

The Ant and the Grasshopper
In a field one summer's day a Grasshopper was hopping about, chirping and singing to its heart's content. An Ant passed by, bearing along with great toil an ear of corn he was taking to the nest.
"Why not come and chat with me," said the Grasshopper, "instead of toiling and moiling in that way?"
"I am helping to lay up food for the winter," said the Ant, "and recommend you to do the same."
"Why bother about winter?" said the Grasshopper; "We have got plenty of food at present." But the Ant went on its way and continued its toil.
When the winter came the Grasshopper had no food and found itself dying of hunger - while it saw the ants distributing every day corn and grain from the stores they had collected in the summer. Then the Grasshopper knew: It is best to prepare for days of need.

If I were the grasshopper, I would have simply swooped down and ate me some of them ants!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Is this yet another personal insult or jab? I took the name from a conversation Baron and I had in another thread.

Would you relax already? Everyone isn't out to insult you. Take a break from posting or something.

[MrRight]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Is this yet another personal insult or jab? I took the name from a conversation Baron and I had in another thread.

Man after reading all of this you got some real problems. someone gives an observation asks a quesion and you come apart at the seams. What is your deal anyway. I did notice that you nevr responded back to mow after you got upset. He did have some good points and didn't say that no one coud ever get help.

[vrblackwell]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I read the political hoopla and the threads about what the government should do FOR us and it just seems to me like there are so many people who want the government to do everything including wiping their "nose" when they have a sniffle.

Where has personal responsibility gone?

Why is it the government's responsibility to find me a job?
Why is it the government's responsibility to heal me when I'm sick?
Why is it the governments responsibility to put food on my table?
Why is it the governments responsibility to make sure that I make enough money?
Why is it the governments responsibility to control gas prices?
Why is it the governments responsibility to tell me how to raise my kids?
Why is it the governments responsibility to bail me out of my house mortgage when I was the one who signed the contract for a bad loan deal?
Why is it the governments responsibility to bail out the airline industry or any industry for that matter? Why should I be responsible for someone's else's bad business decisions?

Have Americans really become so soft and wimpy that they can't take life by the horns, man up and do what is right?


If I can't afford health care like people who make lots of money, then I can't. No big deal. It's not their responsibility to take care of me. If I can't afford to send my kids to college, then they can join the Armed forces and get them to pay for it after they have done their duty.

There ARE jobs out there. Many of them may not pay boat loads of money, but if you can't afford your life style, they you'll just have to pare down and adjust it. It really isn't rocket science.

Don't have many job skills? GET SOME! READ A BOOK! FIGURE SOMETHING OUT! Apply yourself and stop whining.

As great a country as America has been it just really ticks me off (can you tell?) that our citizens wring their hands and whine and moan and belly ache and complain instead of getting off their fat duff and doing something about it....like work! Kill the cable bill, get rid of the expensive cell phone, stop buying cigarettes, booze, lottery tickets and stop using credit cards to finance your lifestyle!!!

Accept the responsibility! In America, there are few obstacles and "scads" of opportunities!!! Become a winner not a whiner!!



I'm MOW and I approve this message

I worry everyday about this country and where it is headed. It really disappoints me to come to a place like this and see some of the political philosophy that I see here.

Our founding fathers would be very disappointed to see where we are today as a country. Liberalism is a poison that will be the destruction of America.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

I worry everyday about this country and where it is headed. It really disappoints me to come to a place like this and see some of the political philosophy that I see here. Adam Smith is often considered the founder of Classical Liberalism.

Our founding fathers would be very disappointed to see where we are today as a country. Liberalism is a poison that will be the destruction of America.

Again, I quibble...

The founding fathers were in fact "liberals" themselves. They were "classical liberals." The idea of doing away with the monarchy and opening up free trade was a very liberal notion in those days.

Liberals: want more change faster
Conservatives: want less change slower

Ronald Reagan's "revolution" was "liberal" in the sense that it proposed changing some set patterns in the way things were going. However, it was "conservative" in that the changes were really intended to roll things back to the way they were before the New Deal.

"Liberal" and "conservative" are properly adjectives and not nouns, because they describe people's attitudes and not the people themselves.

Ted Kennedy, for example, is a rock solid "conservative" when it comes to certain things (like Prohibition) and a flaming "liberal" when it comes to others (like spending your money).

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Again, I quibble...

The founding fathers were in fact "liberals" themselves. They were "classical liberals." The idea of doing away with the monarchy and opening up free trade was a very liberal notion in those days.

Liberals: want more change faster
Conservatives: want less change slower

Ronald Reagan's "revolution" was "liberal" in the sense that it proposed changing some set patterns in the way things were going. However, it was "conservative" in that the changes were really intended to roll things back to the way they were before the New Deal.

"Liberal" and "conservative" are properly adjectives and not nouns, because they describe people's attitudes and not the people themselves.

Ted Kennedy, for example, is a rock solid "conservative" when it comes to certain things (like Prohibition) and a flaming "liberal" when it comes to others (like spending your money).

Well said! I concur!!