I've not entirely defended him...I've just tried to put his statements in context. The man is a black man who lived through the civil rights movement and happens to be a preacher. Guess what...he's gonna say a lot of things we will disagree with. That doesn't give you or anyone else an excuse to assemble a lynch mob. We hear his statements and agree where he's right and disagree where he's wrong. It's called civility. JW's clearly illustrated that his comments were based on if America continues to play God. In this respect any solid man of God would agree with him.
Chris, the problem is, you have become a Caricature of yourself.
we know what you will say before you say it.
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Of course you do, that way you can feel justified in retaliatory remarks against a man who you don't know and isn't here to defend himself.
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Wow. If that doesn't make an honest soul uncomfortable I don't know what will.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
Well, I'm no prophet, but let me just go on record as saying it...
I am fully convinced:
Obama is too badly damaged now. He will never recover from this.
John McCain will be our next president.
Maybe. It says a lot though...after all the Republican policies have done to our country people will vote for another one out of racial fear. That says a whole lot.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
Look, Jeremiah Wright can remember when the news broke about the experiment on black people. He can also remember the last lynching. Also he can remember the protests for civil rights and the police action that followed. It shouldn't make us faint like little ladies that he would hold such views. And it shouldn't make us wonder abotu why Obama isn't hanging him out to dry.
OK, that is just absurd and lacking intelligence. Nobody is fainting like little ladies. What you just did was post a logical fallacy by trying to resort to mockery and a strawman argument. The fact is that he DOES hold this view. It's not a question of HOW he got there. It's that he HOLDS this view.....still! In this day and age. He has not forgotten...that is good, but has he forgiven? He acts as though we are STILL living in those days. And for a man that claims to be a Christian his words sound contrary to what the bible teaches as far as vengeance and turning the other cheek is concerned. Nobody here denies his right to speak out against an injustice either.
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I also think calling his pastor a racist hatemongerer is just as inflammatory as the statements he made. It's being part of the problem instead of being part of the solution. Would a black racist hate mongerer have a while lady serving in the ministry of his church?
Would a white racist hate monger have a black person working for him?
Let's look at the facts again. Do his words sound hateful? Do they sound racist?
I never understood how a Howard Stern could have a black lady working side by side with him either.....
Do you know the circumstances? Can you post a link where I can read more about this white lady? Why not a white man? Cuz the white man keeps everyone down? ;-)
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Either way, as I said, that is so far removes from the birth of the savior that it would be impossible to call Jesus a mixed....in the sense of how we are using it
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Either way, as I said, that is so far removes from the birth of the savior that it would be impossible to call Jesus a mixed....in the sense of how we are using it
I know I am totally late on this, but it is not possible for Jesus to be mixed.... Hello???? Am I missing a huge point or something?
I know I am totally late on this, but it is not possible for Jesus to be mixed.... Hello???? Am I missing a huge point or something?
Jesus came from the line of David. Davids grandmother was a Moabite. So some are saying He is mixed. This is a fallacy since Moabites were Semitic like Israelites AND because it was hundreds of years before Jesus was even born.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.