David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decision - Page 31

Kutless · #**301** 03-04-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Holiness can only be found in Jesus Christ. It CANNOT be found in clothing, speech, location etc. Without Jesus, there is no holiness.....at least not true holiness anyway. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!!!

from someone who approves of speedos no less.

Jehoram · #**302** 03-04-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutless

Can someone speculate what "publications and practical ways" to teach holiness could be. It would seem to me that if the UPCI doesn't have that down pat by now somethings wrong. Isn't clothing our life-line our golden calf? Surely we don't need funds dropped in that area. I would think that ministers would be quite the professionals in that area by now.

Doesn't the Bible say that they will know us by the clothes we wear?

I have no problem with a renewed emphasis on holiness.

Would be great if this time it was done with a more Bible-based perspective.

Where is Ron Wofford when we need him?

CC1 · #**303** 03-04-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alter Ego

I have no problem with a renewed emphasis on holiness.

Would be great if this time it was done with a more Bible-based perspective.

Where is Ron Wofford when we need him?

I would assume hard at work!

DividedThigh · #**304** 03-04-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Holiness can only be found in Jesus Christ. It CANNOT be found in clothing, speech, location etc. Without Jesus, there is no holiness.....at least not true holiness anyway. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!!!

much truth in those words mow, much truth, dt

Ron · #**305** 03-04-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alter Ego

I have no problem with a renewed emphasis on holiness.

Would be great if this time it was done with a more Bible-based perspective.

Where is Ron Wofford when we need him?

Yes, some one mention my name?

StillStanding · #**306** 03-04-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Holiness can only be found in Jesus Christ. It CANNOT be found in clothing, speech, location etc. Without Jesus, there is no holiness.....at least not true holiness anyway. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!!!

The question is: Can clothes make you holy? Clothes can reveal your modesty or cultural leanings, but do they make you holy?

Ron · #**307** 03-04-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

The question is: Can clothes make you holy? Clothes can reveal your modesty or cultural leanings, but do they make you holy?

Clothes do not make you "Holy" for sure, but just as they can reveal your "cultural" leanings they also can reveal a "view" on holiness" on the outside!

For confirmation, just check your local beach in the summer, or your local "strip joint' or for that matter, your "local high school!"

A lack of "modesty" usually indicates a lack of "holiness!"

Sorry MOW, I just can not picture Jesus on the Sea of Galilee sitting in a pair of Speedo's!

The only time I see him revealed his flesh was when it was a part of his crucifixion process which was considered a "shame" to him!

Pressing-On · #**308** 03-04-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Clothes do not make you "Holy" for sure, but just as they can reveal your "cultural" leanings they also can reveal a "view" on holiness" on the outside!

For confirmation, just check your local beach in the summer, or your local "strip joint' or for that matter, your "local high school!"

A lack of "modesty" usually indicates a lack of "holiness!"

Sorry MOW, I just can not picture Jesus on the Sea of Galilee sitting in a pair of Speedo's!

The only time I see him revealed his flesh was when it was a part of his crucifixion process which was considered a "shame" to him!

Amen, Ron! I agree with everything here, although, I'm pretty sure MOW was joking about the Speedos.

Kutless · #**309** 03-04-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Clothes do not make you "Holy" for sure, but just as they can reveal your "cultural" leanings they also can reveal a "view" on holiness" on the outside!

For confirmation, just check your local beach in the summer, or your local "strip joint' or for that matter, your "local high school!"

A lack of "modesty" usually indicates a lack of "holiness!"

Sorry MOW, I just can not picture Jesus on the Sea of Galilee sitting in a pair of Speedo's!

The only time I see him revealed his flesh was when it was a part of his crucifixion process which was considered a "shame" to him!

there goes the water park vacation

CC1 · #**310** 03-04-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Clothes do not make you "Holy" for sure, but just as they can reveal your "cultural" leanings they also can reveal a "view" on holiness" on the outside!

For confirmation, just check your local beach in the summer, or your local "strip joint' or for that matter, your "local high school!"

A lack of "modesty" usually indicates a lack of "holiness!"

Sorry MOW, I just can not picture Jesus on the Sea of Galilee sitting in a pair of Speedo's!

The only time I see him revealed his flesh was when it was a part of his crucifixion process which was considered a "shame" to him!

Ron,

Do you also have a hard time picturing the disciples fishing naked? They did.

I have a feeling most clean shaven UPC men would not feel very comfortable if Jesus showed up today since he had facial hair and was not wearing a dark suit.