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01-26-2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by George
You are right. Frustrated is a good word. A month ago, 2 executive council members and more than 5 general council members of WPF denied they were forming an organization. Why didn't they admit the truth immediately? We all know it is an organization and has been in the making for a lot longer than a month.
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Truth.
Funny how it gets lost in alll the minutia, huh?
Funny how "men of integrity" can lay it down at a moments notice too.
I mean when it's convenient and all. 
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01-26-2008, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
Is this coming from the leaders? are they telling their youth to break off?
what are the reasons these kids from WPF churches giving them?
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Well, it's not coming from the kids!
They'll give them the same reason we use to give for not doing the things we did when growing up - - because my church doesn't believe in it.
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01-26-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by George
You are right. Frustrated is a good word. A month ago, 2 executive council members and more than 5 general council members of WPF denied they were forming an organization. Why didn't they admit the truth immediately? We all know it is an organization and has been in the making for a lot longer than a month.
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My question is this,why would they have wanted to keep it quiet?
Perhaps because the UPC would have had more time to fight against them?
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01-26-2008, 01:36 PM
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Well if the WPF and UPCI have discussions like we have on AFF no wonder there is confusion......So many people, so many opinions, and each one is right! 
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01-26-2008, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Well, it's not coming from the kids!
They'll give them the same reason we use to give for not doing the things we did when growing up - - because my church doesn't believe in it.
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No,I understand it wouldn't be coming from the kids.
In light of them announcing at Tulsa that they are willing to fellowship with the UPC, why would they be telling their youth not to ??????
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01-26-2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
Is this coming from the leaders? are they telling their youth to break off?
what are the reasons these kids from WPF churches giving them?
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Some leaders have been directly questioned as to why they won't allow their young people to fellowship UPC. They denied telling them they couldn't. The fact is they are not directly telling them "Don't fellowship UPC" but rather preaching the UPC has taken the wrong path, doesn't have holiness standards, don't believe the message, etc. Good saints understand their pastor and believe if the UPC is taking such a bad turn we need to stay away.
One WPF general council member preached to his church "We aren't the ones who left the UPC the (church across town) left the UPC long ago." He was referring to the "message" and "doctrine" of the UPC. The "church across town" is a wonderful, conservative UPC church. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out saints are going to think if my pastor will not remain UPC it must be so bad I should disassociate.
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01-26-2008, 01:41 PM
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No,I understand it wouldn't be coming from the kids.
In light of them announcing at Tulsa that they are willing to fellowship with the UPC, why would they be telling their youth not to ??????
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Good question and one that could only be answered by the ones telling their young people that.
What I see is there will be some that feel this way and some that won't and in time they'll have problems within just like UPC does now. As long as there are humans involved there are going to be disagreements and problems.
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01-26-2008, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
What I see is there will be some that feel this way and some that won't and in time they'll have problems within just like UPC does now. As long as there are humans involved there are going to be disagreements and problems.
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Now there's a profound statement. LOL. 
And you're absolutely right.
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01-26-2008, 01:46 PM
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Now there's a profound statement. LOL.
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Not profound at all - just common sense, but thanks.
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01-26-2008, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
No,I understand it wouldn't be coming from the kids.
In light of them announcing at Tulsa that they are willing to fellowship with the UPC, why would they be telling their youth not to ??????
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Key word - willing. They are willing to fellowship the UPC if it meets their criteria for fellowship.
Another possiblity. They have received so many phone calls and letters because of not allowing youth to fellowship UPC they are trying to smooth it over. All the talk about coexisting comes across defensive.
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