Apostolic Summit - Tulsa, OK - Pastors are now receiving it.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Kutless

well, you are wrong as far as run-ins. And even though she was a coward I never said that to her face. IN fact what I did was ask her to define "trendy" Without pause she began to rebuke me. I mean she said those words "I rebuke you"

BTW, again I did play by their rules.

This is a control issue, plain and simple.

If Kutless had violated a written rule, it would have been different. But, "trendy" is such a subjective term.

I mean, what amazes me is that our people wear the same suits and dresses that corporate America wears, and that's ok? The outfits that you see at General Conference define "trendy"!

If we really wanted to be "untrendy", we'd dress like the Amish.

But, in some cases "trendy" is ok, and in some cases it's not.

It's the UNWRITTEN rules that kill ya!

[Monkeyman]

I remember a school, when because the "no sideburn look" became cool, the admin said, "grow a sideburn", then when the sideburns became cool, they wanted them lopped off...CRAZY!!!!! Control freaks!

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Kutless

well, you are wrong as far as run-ins. And even though she was a coward I never said that to her face. IN fact what I did was ask her to define "trendy" Without pause she began to rebuke me. I mean she said those words "I rebuke you"

BTW, again I did play by their rules.

You weren't wearing bell bottoms too, were you?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

I remember a school, when because the "no sideburn look" became cool, the admin said, "grow a sideburn", then when the sideburns became cool, they wanted them lopped off...CRAZY!!!!! Control freaks!

I preached at a church in November 2001, where the pastor was so conservative and "untrendy", that he made this statement, paraphrased:

"I've always flown an American flag on my house. But, since the attacks on the World Trade Center, it seems that everybody and their brother are now flying American flags. I'm going to take mine down, because I don't want to be like the rest of the world"

No joke......

[Pastor G]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I preached at a church in November 2001, where the pastor was so conservative and "untrendy", that he made this statement, paraphrased:

"I've always flown an American flag on my house. But, since the attacks on the World Trade Center, it seems that everybody and their brother are now flying American flags. I'm going to take mine down, because I don't want to be like the rest of the world"

No joke......

Well so much of the Christian world is getting the Holy Ghost now... We better stop...

[timlan2057]

I find it interesting that some of these guys will use this "forward" or "backward" thing in whatever way it suits their purposes.

Much of the time, they are bemoaning that modern penetcostals have left the "old paths" and yearn to go "backwards."

But when something is pointed out, (old-timers wearing jewelry or "bobbing" their hair or not drawing super-elitist lines of fellowship) that contradicts their revisionist view of pentecostal history, they insist that those folks were in error and were moving "forward."

So now "truth" has hardened and crystallized into whatever a group of preachers mostly around east Texas and southern and central California say it is, eh?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pastor G

Well so much of the Christian world is getting the Holy Ghost now... We better stop...

Not to worry, it's not the "real" Holy Ghost..............

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I preached at a church in November 2001, where the pastor was so conservative and "untrendy", that he made this statement, paraphrased:

"I've always flown an American flag on my house. But, since the attacks on the World Trade Center, it seems that everybody and their brother are now flying American flags. I'm going to take mine down, because I don't want to be like the rest of the world"

No joke......

Remember in the late seventies when "granny" dresses with their mid-calf length came into style?

This was when mini-skirts went out.

The first thing as an enthusiastic young pentecostal convert that I questioned in the back of my mind about these "standards" was this:

I thought, well fine, now the girls can wear what's in style and still be "holy."

I was rather taken aback when the granny dresses were preached against for being "worldly fashion."

[Monkeyman]

I still have a bad taste over the P.S.R. stuff that happened a long time ago, these cats got nothing to say to this monkey!

[Pastor G]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

I find it interesting that some of these guys will use this "forward" or "backward" thing in whatever way it suits their purposes.

Much of the time, they are bemoaning that modern penetcostals have left the "old paths" and yearn to go "backwards."

But when something is pointed out, (old-timers wearing jewelry or "bobbing" their hair or not drawing super-elitist lines of fellowship) that contradicts their revisionist view of pentecostal history, they insist that those folks were in error and were moving "forward."

So now "truth" has hardened and crystallized into whatever a group of preachers mostly around east Texas and southern and central California say it is, eh?

Now that was a mouthful...

The only thing I will say about the Bible School thing that was begun a few posts back, is that a lot of us have been in and through Bible School and surely we understand that there just might be another side to this story...

I am not dis-agreeing just remembering...

When I was in BS years ago they were after us about our hair too so about 30 of us went and got crew cuts and we got in trouble for that, cause they thought we were doing it to make a statement... and we were...