Mike, I have made a bold accusation against you. Would you like me to apologize? Tell you what. Give me your church's address and I will visit, with someone who could really use a healing. I'll at least bring video cameras, but I'll also invite the local media. They might be interested. If your prayer of faith is effectual (i.e., if the healing actually happens, and isn't answered with that famous "No"), I will rescind my accusation (even though one healing doesn't prove that none of your previous claims were bogus -- I'll be generous) and apologize, on video then and there, and here on AFF. (If I haven't been banned. )
And I will post the video here.
Or, of course, you could decline this little challenge (which really shouldn't pose any difficulty for you at all), and we can all judge for ourselves why you would do that. You could explain why, of course. That should be interesting.
So, what do you say? Sound like fun? Sure it does!
Now, of course, if the person who wants a healing isn't actually healed, it could be devastating. But I'll find a volunteer (at least try) who I'll brief on the situation. I'll be open and honest about it. I'll say there is someone who claims many miraculous healings, and that I don't believe him, but maybe he's right and maybe you will be healed. If you are not, please don't let it bother you too much. You must know there are many hucksters out there, some on TV, many more not on TV, and you can feel good that you have helped expose one of them. Maybe this huckster (if that's what you are, Mike, just saying) will change his ways.
Oh, and don't worry: the volunteer will be visibly afflicted with something, so a healing will be obvious and, as a bonus for the video, very dramatic. I bet you can hardly wait!
Have you (or has God, through your effectual fervent prayer) ever healed, say, an amputee?
Is anything too hard for God?
I never said I never saw God NOT HEAL anyone I prayed for. I just said that I have seen more and more of it. I prayed for many who were not healed, still do. But I have prayed for those who were healed dramatically. One woman had toxemia after having given birth to a baby that died right away, and she was bloated with fluid, as I later realized when I saw her slim. Her bodily organs were int he process of ................ down when I came to the hospital after she was flown in by helicopter. her family arrived later. We prayed in front of all the staff, as there were many of them. They had no neurological responses from her.
We prayed. I commanded her organs to resurrect. She moved aa finger and the nurse ran over and said if she could hear her then move her finger again. She moved it again. The staff went wild and ran hither and thither working with her. We left the room, and she later was conscious.
We were called in the next day since she took another turn for the worse. She went blind and organs were in jeopardy again. We prayed, and a half hour later the doctor told us she was fine.
Another time I was asked to pray for a native aboriginal minister who had bone cancer and was set to receive treatments. He came to our church and we prayed and prayed for about fifteen minutes. He quaked and shook and was totally set free. The hospital cleared his record completely. He'd be dead now if it was not for that prayer.
I prayed for a woman moments after she requested prayers for a lump that was growing on her side, as big as a large marble. I went to her and prayed right there and she literally felt the lump vanish.
But I have prayed for those who were not healed whatsoever.
Your challenge sounds like Herod's request for Jesus to perform wonders, and Jesus refused.
But what struck me about your testimony is that you felt depression coming on for prayers that were not answered. You were obviously under legalism, for I know of no other reason you would feel depressed after prayers were not answered. My gracious! I do not get depressed when my prayers are not answered. The real issue is why you got depressed, which led you to departure from the faith.Someone never taught you correctly, to be sure.
When I pray and nothing happens, I just leave it in God's hands. I don't get depressed. I know that God does not answer all prayers. Paul left Trophimus sick when he departed for evangelism. Obviously Paul prayed for the man. Paul saw many miracles. But Trophimus remained sick and Paul had to leave him. Paul never got depressed.
Even disciples of Jesus preached in towns where they had to dust their shoes off due to lack of acceptance. Pressure used to hit me if I did not have revival as though I was incompetent. But I saw how even Jesus' own disciples experienced this. Jesus told them it will happen. Things won't occur at times when we want them to. But the Bible says we either ask amiss or else God refuses for certain reasons.
THAT sets people free from this depression you speak of. You should have been taught that. Sad.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
More specifically and officially, from the Assemblies of God's Fundamental Truths, number 12:
WE BELIEVE...Divine Healing of the Sick is a Privilege for Christians Today and is provided for in Christ's atonement (His sacrificial death on the cross for our sins). [1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the AG]
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Now you are telling me I was taught wrong. Here is what I was taught:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up.
Is that wrong?
We have to read the totality of scriptures about the issue. You are avoiding some.
Jas 1:6 KJV But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jas 4:2-3 KJV Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. (3) Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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