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Old 04-08-2011, 03:09 PM
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Re: The poor in America

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JF - my point is that sometimes "sinners" felt the sting of the whip/words/actions.
It was not always sympathy, empathy and compassion.
It is the same with us today.
We need to be discerning to those who really need help, as opposed to those who are using our "help" as a crutch.
A little historical context -- and pretext will help illuminate the significance of this Temple scene.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:48 PM
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It must have really got to you that I can see the better part of those who try, maybe they fail to live up to your views and expectations, but at least they try.
I won't stoop low to call those who act differently names or judge their intent or God's ability to use even a lowly animal or people who stand on street corners to get our attention.

Yes, the Gospel is Good News, but try not to fear the first step that gets us to that Good News: repentance.
It appeared to be a nasty and insultative attack.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:50 PM
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Tell that to the sinners in the temple who had the whip laid on them.
Yep. I bet they didn't get a bottled water and a Burger king voucher from the King of Kings.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:05 PM
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Sinners were attracted to Jesus... they wanted to hear what he had to say. Sinners were repulsed by these weirdos... they should get a clue.
But you are not Jesus. You seem to express a hostile attitude to people that don't track your canned cookie cutter approach.

You seem to be hung up on a fear of repulsion. The Holy Spirit draws people. You seem to think it is your style. It is also clear you haven't done your homework regarding history. history not your thang.


There was something weirdly compelling about those open-air meetings, held among the trees on warm summer evenings, with the flare of torches, the lilt of plaintive melodies, and the perfervid appeals of half-educated preachers to uneducated audiences
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/billy-sunday#ixzz1Iy2UlUBs

Billy Sunday was saved on street preechin,
not bottled water compassionism.

Billy Sunday pretty much did everything you mock,

Every body is into Converstaional missional etc.

No he was loud and street corner. Inarticulate and sincere.

another emergent buzzword is relational.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:28 PM
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It appeared to be a nasty and insultative attack.
Attack, rebuke... whatever you want to call it!
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:30 PM
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Yep. I bet they didn't get a bottled water and a Burger king voucher from the King of Kings.


I won't even dignify that cheap, ill-informed comment with a response.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:40 PM
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But you are not Jesus. You seem to express a hostile attitude to people that don't track your canned cookie cutter approach.

You seem to be hung up on a fear of repulsion. The Holy Spirit draws people. You seem to think it is your style. It is also clear you haven't done your homework regarding history. history not your thang.


There was something weirdly compelling about those open-air meetings, held among the trees on warm summer evenings, with the flare of torches, the lilt of plaintive melodies, and the perfervid appeals of half-educated preachers to uneducated audiences
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/billy-sunday#ixzz1Iy2UlUBs

Billy Sunday was saved on street preechin,
not bottled water compassionism.

Billy Sunday pretty much did everything you mock,

Every body is into Converstaional missional etc.

No he was loud and street corner. Inarticulate and sincere.

another emergent buzzword is relational.
You seem to seem an awful lot. Usually, you're seeming is unfounded and wrong. Let me just go ahead and speak for myself -- thanks.

I am not Jesus. It's His teachings we emulate, His footsteps we follow, and His life we look to. That was pretty weak of a reply. One person uses Jesus to justify megaphone, drive-by evangelism, and then I explain what it was about, you reply I'm not Jesus. Guess we should be consistent when we want to use Jesus to justify our position shouldn't we

Indeed, the Holy Spirit draws people. Glad we agree on that. Now let's ask ourselves if that's how we approach evangelism.

You are also falsely pitting compassion against evangelism. Quite ingenuous and definitely unnecessary. Straw man?

As far as Sunday, his theology wouldn't jive with your own, nor his ecumenicalism with the RCC. I don't pattern on what is right based on the late-1800's preacher. You're also being dishonest with Sunday's typical set-up in a town he visited -- It was in a church house or a tent.

Still, I'm not necessarily "against" street preaching. I find it ineffective today, but that doesn't make it wrong -- more futility than anything. The specific street screamers I refer to are in most cities, with their taunting signs of God's judgement, and their screaming at people to get right or burn. I've chatted with them, I know their theology. They don't live in the cities, they commute in check their spiritual box for screaming at people. The crowds detest them, and because they usually gather during a ball game, parade, celebration, most are just plain annoyed. No one would follow them to a wilderness (John the Baptist), they'd just be happy if they went preaching in the wilderness
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Highly recommend this video:

http://vimeo.com/5911393

If you actually took the time to listen/watch, please give feedback.
BUMP. Anyone watch it?

If you're interested in the topic, you won't be disappointed. Good stuff.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:57 PM
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While you can nitpick all you want but Socialist made a great point. The reception of Jesus by sinners is totally different than the reception of Street preachers by sinners.
Can you describe your street preechin'

Give us some examples of what you did, the number of encounters and the results.
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Old 04-09-2011, 02:09 AM
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Can you describe your street preechin'

Give us some examples of what you did, the number of encounters and the results.
I'm a sinner and I walked by a few while at the beach a few years ago. The only reason they were there is because there was a big graduation was taking place nearby. Anyways, I was totally turned off by them and what they were doing.
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