Tulsa Report Day 2

[George]

Originally Posted by StMark

Interesting comment.That has been a common conversation lately of late.
anyone else know about this or have facts, stories,etc ?

First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by George

First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

This is the root of the problem I see hurting more than anything. We can make excuses all day long for the grown-ups, but what are these actions telling the young people!

[Weary Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I do wish that more folks had the same perspective, and were looking for the "God in them all", rather than looking at the humanity of it all.

It might help if everyone from all standpoints admitted that there is a human side to this situation as well.

Has there been any admission? No not at all,and I believe that is what frustrates a lot of people.

[George]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

This is the root of the problem I see hurting more than anything. We can make excuses all day long for the grown-ups, but what are these actions telling the young people!

My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Live and let live. It will all work out.

People are people. Men will be men. And God is over it all. He knows what we don't know. He sees what we don't see. He's keeping accurate count and account.

Don't worry. Be happy.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Good advice.

Yes it is, PP, and I apologize for crossing a line today when responding to your posts.

God does indeed know it all...

[Weary Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by George

First hand knowledge - several very conservative young people in my relative's church friendship has been cut because they remain in a UPC church.

There was a post on ABN Global by a young man who was crying because his girlfriend broke up with him because he attended a UPC church.

A pastors daughter received a call from a Tulsa bound church youth asking her whose side she was on. The young person informed her if she chose the UPC they could not be friends.

Out of two or three witnesses.....

Absolutely true!!!

In fact, there was a young girl from a Tulsa bound church that was forced to break up with her boyfriend "because he was UPC".Her boyfriend happend to be the pastor's son!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by George

My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

This just breaks my heart...............

I know in time things will settle down, but really what in the world does this tell our young people? Not to mention the families that are split over this.

[George]

Originally Posted by Diamond Jim

It might help if everyone from all standpoints admitted that there is a human side to this situation as well.

Has there been any admission? No not at all,and I believe that is what frustrates a lot of people.

You are right. Frustrated is a good word. A month ago, 2 executive council members and more than 5 general council members of WPF denied they were forming an organization. Why didn't they admit the truth immediately? We all know it is an organization and has been in the making for a lot longer than a month.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

This just breaks my heart...............

I know in time things will settle down, but really what in the world does this tell our young people? Not to mention the families that are split over this.

I know of a father and son out West...it is heartbreaking indeed.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by George

My relative's church has a young person that has been crying at night over the hurt of losing so many friends.

Is this coming from the leaders? are they telling their youth to break off?

what are the reasons these kids from WPF churches giving them?