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Old 11-20-2007, 03:36 AM
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Love Covers

LOVE COVERS



God was so angry with Mankind that He was ready to drown them all. But Noah caught His eye and stayed His hand from utter destruction. For Noah lived his life in such a righteous manner God chose to save him and his immediate family from the global deluge. Several years after Noah and his family emerged from the ark, Noah the patriarch got drunk. Not just tipsy but he had passed out in his tent naked and exposed. Ham, his youngest son, discovered the fact, went outside and in a mocking and derisive manner told his brothers. The elder sons Shem and Japheth had an opposite reaction. Mortified by the situation, they placed a covering over their shoulders and backed into the tent, thereby providing cover for their father’s shame, without they themselves being further exposed to it. Love Covers.

Had this episode happened in the 21st Century Christian Church the result may have been different. No doubt it would have started with, honey did you hear about Noah? With mocking, and more than a little self-righteousness indignation, the story would have eventually made it to the nightly news, Another Patriarch Found in Scandal. Taking great delight in sharing all the details ample fodder would have been furnished to the internet forums, magazines and rumor mills. After all it is not really gossip if it’s true, right? Love Covers.

The majority of modern Christians have bought into a Jerry Springer mentality, that every weakness, every foible, should be placed on display for the public’s amusement. After all, we have a “right” to know don’t we? Love Covers.

Paul spent entire chapters in Romans on the folly of passing judgment on your brother. No, Christians are not to be blind to the faults and even sins of others, the issue is what to do when such knowledge comes to light. The “judgment” which Paul warned of is more than mere recognition that a brother or sister has fallen, but rather it is observation combined with condemnation. True Christianity is not about condemnation, it is about restoration, be it a sinner still separated from God, or a fallen brother. It is an oft-repeated truism that the Christian Army is the only one which destroys and devours its own wounded. Love Covers.

How can any sinner ever hope to come “just as I am” to a church filled with those who revel in the fall of their own brothers and sisters? All the talk about wanting to return to first century church values is meaningless without understanding its core; agape (the selfless and pure love of Christ). Agape never says, did you hear about, but rather, how can I help? Standards of holiness, signs, wonders, and miracles are mockeries of Jesus’ sacrifice unless they are built on the foundation of love. Love covers.

Gossiping, backbiting, murmuring, complaining, and causing division are among the things God has stated time after time that He hates. The scriptural attitude when seeing one fallen is pray for, lift up, and unconditionally love them. Love covers.

There was time when all of us were naked and ashamed like Noah, but Christ covered us in His blood and with His love. Love Covers.

If growth as an individual and growth as a church are the goals, then make sure there is first mastery of the gospel and epistles of John, as well as Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians. The words of Jesus Christ echo down through the centuries, “By this shall all men know you are my disciples by your love one to another”. We live in age of miracles, an age of mega churches, and yet until we truly regain the spirit of love and restoration, we merely attract crowds. Christians are charged with reaching the world with the gospel, but our methodology is not jihad, or debate, or legislation, it is love. Love covers.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:58 AM
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Hey, it was the Dean's post, not mine. I read his post and that quote came to mind.

I had nobody in mind.

I don't have a clue about the rest of what you said. Sorry.

Goodnight. **pulls the shades**
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:59 AM
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Are you not the 'Evangelist' who supposedly had the vision with the 'painting' a few weeks ago? Perhaps you aren't who you were thought to be.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:


  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:17 AM
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Maybe we need more "covered in His blood" threads. Seems if we really loved like Jesus loved we'd not try to devour one another. The only one that does us any good to consume is Jesus.

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John 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
Oh that we'd eat our fill of the Bread of Life!
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:30 AM
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Brings this quote to mind .......

Great people talk about ideas.
Average people talk about things.
Small people talk about other people.
Excellent and timely quote, Felicity!!!

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Old 11-20-2007, 09:36 AM
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I don't agree with everybody here on alot of issues,but to down degrade folks or belittle folks just isn't Christian.
Sad to say but the medium of the internet is a perfect tool ,for little minded folks to make a name for themselves.
Some people are so insecure,that putting down others makes them feel good.
Some folks can't disagree without being disagreeable.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:45 AM
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Why is it when we (the middle of the road, sometimes called liberal folks) say anything dissenting about the UC's and the UC's take it to the next level in defense do we get blamed for the "blood bath" threads? Come down off of your high horse want you. It is obvious when the tone of a thread gets changed. If you disagree, fine. Don't go pulling your self righteous, high and mighty boot straps up and get so defensive.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:58 AM
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I think I have seen 1 thread that fits the bill.

where are the rest?
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:05 AM
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Why is it when we (the middle of the road, sometimes called liberal folks) say anything dissenting about the UC's and the UC's take it to the next level in defense do we get blamed for the "blood bath" threads? Come down off of your high horse want you. It is obvious when the tone of a thread gets changed. If you disagree, fine. Don't go pulling your self righteous, high and mighty boot straps up and get so defensive.
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I think I have seen 1 thread that fits the bill.

where are the rest?
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:37 AM
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I just formally want to question why there is such a rash of disgusting 'let's chew on someone' threads?

Frankly, it's disheartening and is in horrible taste no matter WHO is pushing it.
Dean, can you list the threads that you have in mind?
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