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10-24-2007, 02:11 PM
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I'm just saying that even though it amy not be biblical......does the co=pastor still have to be voted in as pastor? Is this a by-law question
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And as far as I recall yes, we encountered this earlier this year and I do believe he had to be voted in...even if everyone is in agreement I think it had to be formally done...bylaw thing...
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10-24-2007, 02:13 PM
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And?
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"Table waiter" would be a "menial" task like a janitor. There were many such positions in antiquity that some folks counted as a high honor to serve. But we find little Biblical instruction on the details. We must infer that the NT church organization was intended to be flexible and changeable.
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10-24-2007, 02:17 PM
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From the need of a term to describe a person fitting the need of a pastor who wishes another pastor to work with him.
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I have heard the term Associate used for "co-pastor" situations and it was not meant to be another term for Assistant.
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10-24-2007, 02:17 PM
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I don't how that relates to the topic. Copastor is a ministerial position, is it not?
Only 5, some say 4, were giving to the church for ministry and none mention copastor.
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10-24-2007, 02:18 PM
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I don't how that relates to the topic. Copastor is a ministerial position, is it not?
Only 5, some say 4, were giving to the church for ministry and none mention copastor.
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Consider, first, TS, the definition of "minister."
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10-24-2007, 02:26 PM
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I don't how that relates to the topic. Copastor is a ministerial position, is it not?
Only 5, some say 4, were giving to the church for ministry and none mention copastor.
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"Pastor" is plural in Ephesians 4:11; "pastors." There is no reason to think that every NT church had just a single "pastor" in the traditional fashion of our movement. The NT church was intended to be flexible.
What's the matter, is there a "co-pastor" out there who's got your goat?
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10-24-2007, 02:30 PM
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"Pastor" is plural in Ephesians 4:11; "pastors." There is no reason to think that every NT church had just a single "pastor" in the traditional fashion of our movement. The NT church was intended to be flexible.
What's the matter, is there a "co-pastor" out there who's got your goat?
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Am I close by saying there was zero NT churches that had pastors in the traditional fashion of our movement?
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10-24-2007, 02:30 PM
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Consider, first, TS, the definition of "minister."
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Rght, but only 5 that were given to the church.
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10-24-2007, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
"Pastor" is plural in Ephesians 4:11; "pastors." There is no reason to think that every NT church had just a single "pastor" in the traditional fashion of our movement. The NT church was intended to be flexible.
What's the matter, is there a "co-pastor" out there who's got your goat?
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Your right, the church had more then one leader of the church. the structure we have today is way off base.
No ones has my goat.
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10-24-2007, 02:32 PM
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Co-pastor is a shared #1 position. Youth pastor, Sunday School pastor, Outreach Pastor are all sub-pastors...
Now, what is required to gain the title, "Reverend?"
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