The UPCI Is Not Alone In Church Splits

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

HQs should post your endorsement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hy percoffee

Or the Tulsa brethren????

I am just stating my opinion, and I think you can do that on here.
I feel the UPC is heading in a WIN WIN direction!! JMO

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

The UPC has seen her best days...

Come on... Its exciting times for the UPC!!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sandra

I am just stating my opinion, and I think you can do that on here.
I feel the UPC is heading in a WIN WIN direction!! JMO

Yes and I was just commenting on your opinion and I think I can do that on here. The WIN WIN direction is interesting. WIN who and what is the question.
Jeroboam thought a calf in Dan and one in Bethel was a WIN WIN direction so you have his vote.
Placing the Ark on a cart was a WIN WIN situation. In the resurrection you can ask Uzzah's opinion on it.
Just some thoughts.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Sandra

Come on... Its exciting times for the UPC!!

Someone on another forum said that the UPC has seen her best days... I just don't remember who said it.

I have mixed emotions over all this. Some may do well. Many may go by way of babylon, the scarlet harlot.

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yes and I was just commenting on your opinion and I think I can do that on here. The WIN WIN direction is interesting. WIN who and what is the question.
Jeroboam thought a calf in Dan and one in Bethel was a WIN WIN direction so you have his vote.
Placing the Ark on a cart was a WIN WIN situation. In the resurrection you can ask Uzzah's opinion on it.
Just some thoughts.

Win the lost!!!! I am soooo excited, you know I go to a UPC church when I am at home.
People have been driving by these UPC churches for years wondering whats going on inside, now they can turn on the tube and see. That will cause them to visit,make sense.
Look for UPC preachers on TBN in the next few months, they will share the testimony of the long journey to get to this place.
Gonna be GREAT!

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yes sir I surely do. Try Demas????????????????
Try the false teachers Paul turned over to Satan????
Paul in FACT stated he could become a castaway after preaching to others.
Paul wrote a complete chapter warning the Corinthians they could be lost. 1Cor. 10.!

I don't deny that willful sinners can theoretically be lost. But why would someone that is born again become a willful sinner? I think that people that have been born again have an innate sensitivity towards a repentant heart. John 10:28,29 says "my sheep hear my voice and I know them...I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand." Weren't the false teachers turned over to satan for their own good?? ie: God's rod of correction is for our own good and salvation. I think it is very difficult to lose salvation. We would have to outsin God's daily renewable mercy. Hard to say if such a person were ever born again in the first place.

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Someone on another forum said that the UPC has seen her best days... I just don't remember who said it.

I have mixed emotions over all this. Some may do well. Many may go by way of babylon, the scarlet harlot.

You sure don't look like you are UPC?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Sandra

You sure don't look like you are UPC?

That's not me. It's like no one can read the "R.I.P." next to his pic.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I don't deny that willful sinners can theoretically be lost. But why would someone that is born again become a willful sinner? I think that people that have been born again have an innate sensitivity towards a repentant heart. John 10:28,29 says "my sheep hear my voice and I know them...I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand." Weren't the false teachers turned over to satan for their own good?? ie: God's rod of correction is for our own good and salvation. I think it is very difficult to lose salvation. We would have to outsin God's daily renewable mercy. Hard to say if such a person were ever born again in the first place.

Paul said they had shipwrecked concerning the faith.

Born again people become willful sinners because they do not stay spiritual-turn a deaf ear to preaching and become carnal and even reprobate.
Yes the saints certainly have eternal life it is called the Holy Ghost(the life of God) and true NO man can pluck them out of the Father's hand. Our salvation it not dependent on the third party's will but our own. However Jesus said those who would not abide in the Vine and bear fruit HE TAKETH AWAY. Jn. 15:2 And those taken away are burned in fire. v. 6

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

That's not me. It's like no one can read the "R.I.P." next to his pic.

ok, so you are UPC, do you abide by all the rules??