What Difference Does it Make?? Is this Forum REALLY APOSTOLIC?????

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Wasn't going to take long before we had one of THESE threads.

Are you surprised that I am the one who wrote it? Do you have a problem with these types of threads?

What's the deal?

[Tina]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

What I read from Tina's post is those that start "making light" or joking with the poster causing a defensive type posting necessary completely breaking down the discussion.

That was exactly what I meant.

[BrotherEastman]

I appreciate my Apostolic brothers and sisters, however, it becomes difficult to have civil discussions when there is organization bashing. I do not plan to bash other Apostolics on this forum. I will no longer feel free to come over here, so long as there are negative comments made about the group of Apostolics I belong to. If anyone feels negatively about an organization, they should keep it to themselves, especially if they have the same baptism of like precious faith. I realize that there are people who put labels on others, such as 'liberal' or 'conservative' and that in itself is fine, we can discuss those issues w/out bashing a specific church. When bashing becomes part of a forum, then it is hard for me to respect his/her views. If we are all Apostolics, then we are all related as spiritual brothers and sisters, and I suppose that this is something that even I myself should remember.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think there's a difference in what you are talking about and what Tina said. You are right, most threads will get off topic, but usually comes back around.

What I read from Tina's post is those that start "making light" or joking with the poster causing a defensive type posting necessary completely breaking down the discussion.

Hasn't this always been a part of forum discussion?

I do think that the original FCF was more serious in intent and therefore in discussion as well ...... but there still was joking, giving people a hard time and all the other stuff that makes up the dynamics of forum discussion going on then. It was awesome at its best!

I agree with Reformed Dave's remarks about the increasing shallowness. That's not meant as a put-down or anything like that.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Hasn't this always been a part of forum discussion?

I do think that the original FCF was more serious in intent and therefore in discussion as well ...... but there still was joking, giving people a hard time and all the other stuff that makes up the dynamics of forum discussion going on then. It was awesome at its best!

I agree with Reformed Dave's remarks about the increasing shallowness. That's not meant as a put-down or anything like that.

Okay, substitue the word shallowness instead of joking, then we are saying the say thing.

Joking is fine and we all do that, but when it becomes "making fun" joking that's where it goes south.

[ManOfWord]

This forum is no more or less than the people who choose to post here. If we posted a "doctrinal statement" that people must adhere to before becoming a member, can anyone imagine the kind of nightmare that would become? How does something like that get policed" Let alone, stifiling serious discussion from the right and left.


I am apostolic to the core. Some probably disagree with that. But if we only allow one "brand" of apostolics then this forum will be of little help to anyone except "us four and no more!" Let freedom ring on AFF! Let the diversity bless us all! Let "apostolica" be discussed, dissected, praised, cajoled, criticized and whatever needs to be brought up. We all need a place to have freedom in discussion without repercussion!

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I appreciate my Apostolic brothers and sisters, however, it becomes difficult to have civil discussions when there is organization bashing. I do not plan to bash other Apostolics on this forum. I will no longer feel free to come over here, so long as there are negative comments made about the group of Apostolics I belong to. If anyone feels negatively about an organization, they should keep it to themselves, especially if they have the same baptism of like precious faith. I realize that there are people who put labels on others, such as 'liberal' or 'conservative' and that in itself is fine, we can discuss those issues w/out bashing a specific church. When bashing becomes part of a forum, then it is hard for me to respect his/her views. If we are all Apostolics, then we are all related as spiritual brothers and sisters, and I suppose that this is something that even I myself should remember.

Bro. Eastman .....

There's always been UPC bashing on these forums. The original intent and purpose of FCF was to give UPCers and others the opportunity to discuss their issues and to discuss what is going on in the UPC. It wasn't the intent to "bash" the UPC but to allow open and free discussion about issues in the UPC and Oneness apostolic movement without fear of reprisal.

You my brother .... have the opportunity and freedom here to speak up and affirm the UPC .... and to emphasize the positive.

I don't see that much UPC bashing really.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

This forum is no more or less than the people who choose to post here. If we posted a "doctrinal statement" that people must adhere to before becoming a member, can anyone imagine the kind of nightmare that would become? How does something like that get policed" Let alone, stifiling serious discussion from the right and left.


I am apostolic to the core. Some probably disagree with that. But if we only allow one "brand" of apostolics then this forum will be of little help to anyone except "us four and no more!" Let freedom ring on AFF! Let the diversity bless us all! Let "apostolica" be discussed, dissected, praised, cajoled, criticized and whatever needs to be brought up. We all need a place to have freedom in discussion without repercussion!

Agreed!

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I appreciate my Apostolic brothers and sisters, however, it becomes difficult to have civil discussions when there is organization bashing. I do not plan to bash other Apostolics on this forum. I will no longer feel free to come over here, so long as there are negative comments made about the group of Apostolics I belong to. If anyone feels negatively about an organization, they should keep it to themselves, especially if they have the same baptism of like precious faith. I realize that there are people who put labels on others, such as 'liberal' or 'conservative' and that in itself is fine, we can discuss those issues w/out bashing a specific church. When bashing becomes part of a forum, then it is hard for me to respect his/her views. If we are all Apostolics, then we are all related as spiritual brothers and sisters, and I suppose that this is something that even I myself should remember.

Brother Eastman...you are all over the board here. You are essentially saying everything is out of bounds. I disagree.

I believe that any organization worth its salt should be strong enough to endure questions, comments, challenges, and scrutiny. To some people what I mentioned above IS bashing, I don't believe so. I think everyone or at least most people around here understand that it is out of bounds to discuss any one individual. Individual churches are not so black and white.

I think we all appreciate in-depth topical conversations.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

For the most part the shallowness started with NFCF. It was really bad the last 6 months. There is a lack of thought and depth here but that is where most are at.

I've started posting on another forum more to my liking.

which forum is that?