Can Rebellion Ever Be Justified?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

An example of divinely-appointed rebellion:


2 Chron 10:15-19 So the king hearkened not unto the people: for the cause was of God, that the LORD might perform his word, which he spake by the hand of Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat. And when all Israel saw that the king would not hearken unto them, the people answered the king, saying, What portion have we in David? and we have none inheritance in the son of Jesse: every man to your tents, O Israel: and now, David, see to thine own house. So all Israel went to their tents. But as for the children of Israel that dwelt in the cities of Judah, Rehoboam reigned over them. Then king Rehoboam sent Hadoram that was over the tribute; and the children of Israel stoned him with stones, that he died. But king Rehoboam made speed to get him up to his chariot, to flee to Jerusalem. And Israel rebelled against the house of David unto this day

1 Kings 11:26-40 The reason for the rebellion

That is an interesting scripture, however was God happy for them rebelling, or did he just allow it to accomplish his purposes?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Ron

So God authorized the rebellion against the Crown?
Didn't he contradict his word?

you do realize you totally missed the point don't you?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

you do realize you totally missed the point don't you?

I know everyone seems to be missing the question as well-is rebellion ever justified and in what context?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Ron

I know everyone seems to be missing the question as well-is rebellion ever justified and in what context?

I thought I answered that. When the laws or authorities act in such a way as to try to force you to disobey God.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I thought I answered that. When the laws or authorities act in such a way as to try to force you to disobey God.

Being taxed without proper representation is a proper excuse to go to war?

I ask this in light off a disscussion I had with another preacher who has seen a Pastor being unethical & doing questionable things.

He could have brought him before "AUTHORITIES" but God plainly spoke to him and to another minister and God said to"leave him alone" & that if they went after him God would, "go after them."

So would that be seen as being in rebellion to God appointed authorities & back to the original discussion, couldn't God have brought about the establishment of the USA without armed rebellion?

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Ron

It was the Crown that set up the Colonies.

I thought it was people who left the crown that set up the colonies. It was later that the "crown" saw the financial benefit of commandeering the political aspect of the colonies under the "authority" of the king. Were the pilgrims in the mayflower under jurisdiction of the king, or were they fleeing the tyranny of a diabolical monarchy? If they established their own "colony" free of tyranny, then the tyrant king presupposes authority that never was his to begin with, who are the real rebels? Wasn't the english parliament passing legislation with regard to the colonies without giving the constituents of the colonies a representative voice in parliament? It seems to me that the "crown" was overstepping his boundaries, and not the colonists. The "revolutionary" war was really a war of self defense (remember the boston massacre), rather than an uprising and rebellion. The colonists had fled english tyranny... the tyrant (like pharoah) attempted to subdue the people ex post facto liberation. The colonist's fight was a fight to preserve their liberty, not gain it! imo...

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Ron

That is an interesting scripture, however was God happy for them rebelling, or did he just allow it to accomplish his purposes?

I believe that He was "happy" "to accomplish His purposes".

[RevDWW]

Define "rebellion". Then look at a case by case basis to see if it was true rebellion and whether God was "happy" with it.