I'm with you on this one. I read the two choices and I think that too many people on this forum are bored to think about such a thing. Kids are kids and they usually tell on themselves or the parents can just remember back...and just know what trouble the kiddos are getting into
amen sista, preach it, lol, dt
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While I don't think the topic or question is a "bad" one per say it does bring to light the fascination that the apostolic culture has with "authority" and who has what over who.
I dont know how to answer this poll. but I know for a fact that God talked to my mom and told her exactly what, where, when, who and how, of the stuff we were doing wrong.
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While I don't think the topic or question is a "bad" one per say it does bring to light the fascination that the apostolic culture has with "authority" and who has what over who.
Do you not think parents should have authority over their children?
The Bible has a lot to say about authority.
What you call fascination some call doctrine.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
Do you not think parents should have authority over their children?
Oh, I think they do. So much so that I don't feel it is an issue. But so many threads on these boards have the theme of "authority" and why so-and-so has authority over so-and-so. Granted, this is one of the rare ones dealing with parents and children -usually it is the MAN having authority over the woman or the pastor having all exclusive say.....
I don't know...I think He can do that...I'm sure that in the past He has or perhaps He just allowed things to happen rather than particularly orchestrating them...
On the other hand, it sounds almost like the same line of logic that says if a church member disobeys the pastor, and then has some sort of ill event occur that it was God showing the pastor what the person did or punishing that person...I'm not sure He works exactly like that or if those conclusions can be drawn.
As for my own children...I certainly think God speaks to parents, and sometimes I think God allows things to happen in a child's life to teach the child a lesson, and not necessarily to apprise the parent of what is going on.
So I guess...I don't know. I think He can, but I don't know that He does or that He will....I also don't think that if He doesn't reveal a child's disobedience that it necessarily translates into God not honouring the authority of the parent.....
I don't know that God punishes children in order to honour the authority of a parent....
I agree with this completely. I am not sure if it is supernatural or not, but I think there is an intuition that most parents have that helps them see into the lives of their kids. I can tell when my kid is lying even when they tell a very very compelling story. My kid can pull the wool over my lovely's eyes but not mine, and my honey is astounded how I can tell the difference between what is the truth. It gives me a little more credibility in the kid's eyes and makes them think twice before contemplating telling a lie.
Oh, I think they do. So much so that I don't feel it is an issue. But so many threads on these boards have the theme of "authority" and why so-and-so has authority over so-and-so. Granted, this is one of the rare ones dealing with parents and children -usually it is the MAN having authority over the woman or the pastor having all exclusive say.....
Perhaps the Apostolic culture appears to have a fascination with authority because it is viewed against the backdrop of a culture that is consumed with the idea of personal autonomy, which is not a Scriptural concept at all.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
Perhaps the Apostolic culture appears to have a fascination with authority because it is viewed against the backdrop of a culture that is consumed with the idea of personal autonomy, which is not a Scriptural concept at all.
I know the Catholic Church has embraced it for years...
I used to think my dad had a direct link to God and although he was one of the most loving men… I had a great reverential fear of him… he seemed to know everything. He also was used in the gifts…I always felt it was his close walk with God… he had the gift of discernment.
My girls now think that I have an uncanny way of knowing things… I think it is more that I try to stay close in fellowship with them and it is just very easy to detect changes in relationship. Withdrawal or being preoccupied is always a signal to me something is up.. I have radar feelers up all the time and I can usually tell when something is being hid from me or bothering my kids. The claims that I have eyes in the back of my head is just because I know how they think and usually have suspicion of what they are doing… lol I was a kid once.
As far as to Rico’s question… I feel that God’s eyes are on his children. I do believe that circumstances can happen at times to wake up a kid heading down a wrong path. I trust that God can allow parents to be aware of problems if parents are prayerfully raising their children in fear and admonition of the Lord.
I don’t think that is it purposely done by God… life happens… but timing can absolutely be of God…. God can use any circumstance to speak to those he cares about.
I know the Catholic Church has embraced it for years...
Embraced what?
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
He also was used in the gifts…I always felt it was his close walk with God… he had the gift of discernment.
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