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Old 07-23-2007, 10:21 AM
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I teach against rings period on the hand-ears-toes-nose. Rings are jewelry which those passages you cite says NOT to wear. Since i have no idea how much I could possibly wear and not be in violation of the principle of this passage I wear none.
Then the wedding ring itself is pagan in nature and was christianized by the Roman church thus it is not pleasing to the Lord. Rome is not only the Mother of Harlots, she is also the Mother of Abominations.
I realize jewelry was suffered in the OT as was polygamy-divorce-vengence-etc. but in times of consecration both personally and nationally they ridded themselves of their jewelry. Jewelry has a long association with Idolatry & pride in Scripture datign back to the fall of Lucifer.
NO Apostolic child of God should wear ornamental jewelry and every true man of God should teach against it.
Most of the time I like to jab at you just for kicks...But Bro...The bolded part smells of arrogance, judgementalism and pride!

So are you saying that those that wear wedding rings are not apostolic and men that do not preach against are not "True Men of God"
CAN I THROW UP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you wear a watch???????
Guess what...its ornamental jewelry!!!!!
I dont care how plain or leather band whatever...its still ornamental jewelry.
YOU cannot get around that fact.
Ill Quote you...."Since i have no idea how much I could possibly wear and not be in violation of the principle of this passage I wear none.
Since you have no idea what kind of watch to wear and not be in violation of scripture then I assume you wear none at all.
If not you are a hypocrite and once again preaching a bunch of legal poppey cock just to fit your stand.
If you dont wear a watch...I retract my statement.
Also...
The above mention scriptures are NOT...NOT...NOT a forbiddence of jewelry, they are simply saying dont let your "Gold" make you who you are...let it me the inward heart!!!!!!!!
We could go around on this all day!
But I would HOPE you are smart enough to actually not believe that ONLY men of God preach against wedding rings.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:22 AM
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Just for the record...

I felt that God was highly pleased when I made my darling wife very happy with her almost 3ct. diamond. Best investment that I ever made.

The libs and ultra-cons may fuss and argue over the finer points of scripture, though totally misunderstood...but I've had enough of this non productive discussion of days gone by.

It's time to grow up. Any attempt to humbly please the Lord in all things, whether it be to wear or not wear a ring is indeed commendable. Nothing can be said to argue that point. I applaud that attitude. It is an attitude that I carefully assume also. Suggestion: Let us also try to humbly please the Lord in the attitude that we have toward those who do not see the finer points in the exact same way that we see them. The dispicable attitude to be shunned in ourselves is the one that secretly seem themselves holier than others because of their naked, ringless finger. That is truly dispicalble.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:23 AM
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He hit what the principal of the message of that scripture is. WE, me included had missed it for years.
I don't know . . . I Timothy 2:9 seems to be pretty direct, to me.

Are you saying that the true meaning of the passage as a whole DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS the plain meaning of I Timothy 2:8-10?

Let your adorning be this . . . NOT that . . .
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But if you add a ticking mechanism and wear it around your wrist it's alright.....
Add the ticking mechanism and embed it in your chest and your have a pacemaker.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:25 AM
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My question has always been how can a plastic earbob costing a few bucks be an ornament and a ring on the hand with a diamond not be? Or take the ring off the hand place it in the ear THEN it becomes jewelry???? Makes no sense to me????
NOT & NOR are using with gold in these epistles I think I understand without a Greek lesson what NOT means.
Kinda like my question......
Womens exposed legs to the knee.....is considered holy....
Yet a man in knee length shorts is not.....

Unreal!
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:26 AM
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It the band is ornamental I concur. I wear a belt ot hold my pants up it is not ornamental and my band I promise is not the least bit ornamental nor my time piece. I do not even carry a gold pen in my pocket.
so you are saying there is NO SHINE whatsoever on your belt buckle or your watch?
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:27 AM
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I think I see how you are getting here. Thanks again for explaining your position.

I look at it like they were not to esteem costly clothing and jewelry, or to use it to attempt to draw people to Christ. In other words, try not to stand out in the crowd or draw attention to yourself, but let the focus be on God, and let the adorning of your heart with a meek spirit full of the fruits of the Holy Ghost be what draws men to God.

Even the poorest among us can manage to scrounge up a simple wedding band. I do not see it as a great divider between the 'haves' and the 'have-nots.' These days, many men are choosing jewel-encrusted wedding rings for themselves. What I haven't seen is people braiding gold into their hair.

I believe my simple, smooth gold wedding ring does more good than harm. People that see me with my kids on the weekend on an outing with "just Daddy" can see that I'm not just another poor slob with weekend visitation rights and a heap-o'-child-support payments to make. Hey look, some people can stay married after they have children!

It also prevents the lion's share of "conversations" that might lead to temptation. Well, maybe not in my case . . . .

Brother Epley, what do the bride and groom exchange as a token in weddings in your church?
Tithe envelopes.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:32 AM
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so you are saying there is NO SHINE whatsoever on your belt buckle or your watch?
Ohhhhhh how perceptive is my young friend... It IS the shine that must be avoided. Hence his HAT. Wonder if he wears it in the pulpit too?

Elder Epley. I think we are about to have a little fun here.
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If not you are a hypocrite and once again preaching a bunch of legal poppey cock just to fit your stand.
Pretty tough words coming from an undertaker. You are an undertaker, right? Undertakers aren't just the world's best hypocrites, but they are PROFESSIONAL hypocrites.














They earn their living by standing around for hours looking really, really sorry about a $25,000 funeral ! ! !


But theriouthly, folkth. I am interested in people's reasons and biblical backing for their reasons in this thread, not the same old verbal jousting. I know it is a lot to expect from this crowd . . .
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I wear a wedding ring because it is the morally correct thing to do in a culture where the accepted practice distinguishing a married person from an unmarried person is the wearing of a ring.

I also believe God is in favor of this symbol of the covenant relationship I entered into with my wife almost 34 years ago. There is no evidence in Scripture that God is against gold, silver, and precious jewels. Matter of fact, the opposite is true. He enthusiatically embraces these things. He simply doesn't want this to be the adornment that distinguishes us as individuals.

I definitely don't want my wife running around without a wedding ring on. I think it's a disgrace for married women to be out and about without a wedding ring on, when this is the accepted cultural way of designating her marital status in our society. When I see a woman with children my first thoughts are that she is a single mother.

I think this teaching against wearing of rings is one of the most ridiculous teachings in Pentecostal circles.
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