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Old 02-25-2007, 10:01 AM
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I believe in prophecy...but I do not base my decisions on prophecy...I listen carefully, pray about it and generally wait for what my heart tells me to do. If it is of God things come to pass...I do not believe all missed prophecy is of the devil! There are many factors involved in prophecy.
I have seen people lose out with God running after so called prophets. There must be balance in everything.
Much of the Bible is prophecy...some things have come to pass oter things are future.
I believe in the gift of prophecy...but like anything else it has it's place.
I was associated with some "friends" that really wanted to take over the Brazil work...They gave us a prophecy...we did not do what the prophecy said for us to do because we felt it was from the wrong spirit and time has proven us right...
Be very careful when dealing with prophecy...God can speak and God does speak but He does not go against His written word, the Bible.
Not bragging, but I have been used in the gift of prophecy on certain occasions but I do not feel I am a prophetess. Once in a meeting without realizing what I was doing, I spoke and said, someone here will die tomorrow...we all fell in the alter...the next day a young man that was in the meeting fell dead at work.
I dreamed about a certain preacher and in the dream the Lord spoke to me about a sin in his life and unless he repented he would die...I went to him...he laughed but within weeks he was shot...His wife bent over the coffin crying keep saying over and over, OH! if you would have only listened to the missionary..."
The spirit of the prophet is subject. "Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting by, let the first be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged; and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. For God is not a God of confusion but of peace."(1 Corinthians 14:29-33a RSV)

I have no faith in "bathroom and parking lot" prophecies... but there is the Real thing...and we must have enough spirit of God to know the difference...and enough humbleness to harken to the voice of God but one thing for certain God does obey His ORDER set up in HIS word...
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:59 AM
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although I dont agree with you, please go into more detail as to why you said that....
I said that because I believe the gift of prophecy is not available to any Christians outside of the Christians in the New Testament. The numerous failed prophecies I have witnessed from today's self-proclaimed prophets strengthens that belief. I simply do not buy the excuse that the prophecies failed to come to pass because someone lacked faith, because someone failed to fulfil their part of the prophecy, or any of the other excuses prophets come up with when their prophecies fail. I have had many wonderful and flattering prophecies given to me that my fleshly nature would love to embrace, but I have chosen to reject those prophesies in favor of a Christian faith that relies solely on the written, infallable word of God for guidance.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:32 PM
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You believe that prophecy no longer exists? If this were true what about the other gifts? Do they no longer exists because someone is a fake healer or someone made up a miracle?
What about the gift of tongues? If one gift would cease then it would seem all gifts ceased...
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:36 PM
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What about gifts of wisdom and knowledge?
Helps is a gift...there are many gifts we find throughout the Bible....

1 Corinthians 12:8-11 :

words of wisdom;
words of knowledge;
faith;
healing;
miracle-working;
prophecy;
distinguishing of spirits;
tongues;
interpretation of tongues.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:38 PM
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My friend, Christians are a gift to this lost, sick, dying world...
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:01 PM
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It depends on who is doing the propheseying...
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:18 PM
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It depends on who is doing the propheseying...
This is surely true!
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:29 PM
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It depends on who is doing the propheseying...
my thoughts EXACTLY!
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:06 PM
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my thoughts EXACTLY!
I see that thou spendeth too much timeth concerning the area of sports... Getteth the sportest offest your mindest.....
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:31 PM
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I do believe in the gift of prophecy.I have been told numerous things by minsters and they have almost all come to pass and some are yet to come to pass.I don't however go around basing my life on them.They are confirmations and edifications.
They are for the building up of the church(me the church.lol).I do believe that some
prophecy at times out of good will.That is not what I mean.I mean the God given gift.I have been told some awesome things by Brothers Charles Pierce,Freddie Clark,Eldrige Anselmi,James Randall,Sister Shelly Tolbird,Brother Tolbird,an elder I cannot remember his name anymore but who pastored and evanglized from Mansfield,La,Brother David Cheramie,Brother Gordon Winslow,Brother Strange,
Brother Beard,Sister Lois Mitchell and many other ministers.
God still has those today that are used and speak thus saith the Lord.
Do I run to prophecy meetings? No it just happens in church service and sometimes I get emails telling me things etc.God still works this way.
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