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Old 02-24-2007, 07:22 PM
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Hate to disappoint y'all there is NO such thing as a PCI existing today y'all are about 60 years behind.
Well ... not your neck of the woods ... The AS assured the annihilation of our kind.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:23 PM
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The PCI no longer exists. Only in memory.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:23 PM
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What??? No Pentecostal Church, Incorporated? When, what happened? Why wasn't I notified? I'll call Bro. Goss and get down to the bottom of this!

No, the PCI no longer exists. But the same truth prevails. Something good about SAMENESS. Seems like I read that somewhere.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:25 PM
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Well ... not your neck of the woods ... The AS assured the annihilation of our kind.
Who are the officials aand where is the headquarters???????????? And who are the members????????????????

Number one they wouldn't let most of you guys have a license back then for what you preach and believe.
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Old 02-24-2007, 08:27 PM
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1. Repentance, being sorry, and turning from sin, brings forgiveness of sin. The Blood of Christ, shed at the death of Christ, takes away our sin when we die to sin at repentance. A p[erson who has truly repented and had his soul cleasned by the Blood of Christ, is ready to meet the Lord.

2. Once a person repents, he should be instucted as to the purpose of water baptism and, as an act of obedience to the Word of God, is to be baptized in water by immersion in the Name of Jesus Christ. This is his response of obedience to being a child of God.

3. God gave the promise of the Holy Ghost as enduement of power enabling us to live a victorious Christian life, and through the Holy Ghost, we are raise in newness of Life. The baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

4. A Christian is to live a godly life that goes beyond a mere dress code. All that he does, with special emphasis on conduct and conversation, is to be holy. He is to keep himself unspotted from the world and live a life in conformity to the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
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Old 02-24-2007, 08:35 PM
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Great post!!
Well, so far, we've got concensus, but I know that could change!
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Old 02-24-2007, 08:39 PM
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Sure, why not?

Sincere repentance and surrender of one's life to Jesus Christ makes one rapture ready.

Water Baptism is to be done in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ (in whatever form) The initial receiving of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is evidenced by speaking in tongues.

Water baptism and HGB are necessary. The question is, necessary for what?
My answer is obedience and power.

There you have it. That's where I stand and I'm stickin' to it!
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Daniel, you finally admit what you believe?
This is pretty much what I surmised on the other thread, and you denied it.

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Old 02-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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You gotta love the guys at the True Jesus church who have take the baptismal regeneration doctrine to a new height ....

"Water baptism is the sacrament for the remission of sins for regeneration. The baptism must take place in natural living water, such as the river, sea, or spring. The Baptist, who already has had received baptism of water and the Holy Spirit, conducts the baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. And the person receiving the baptism must be completely immersed in water with head bowed and face downward."

See their statement of faith ....
Well, as far as we know, mikveh/baptism/ritual cleansing was to be done in running water and the person self-immersed three times. That was most likely the method used by John the Baptist, then Jesus, then the followers of Jesus who became the NT church.

This is a quote from The Didache which was written some time between 50 AD and 250 AD (various dates are given). It is part of chapter 15 of the Book of Acts in some Bibles. It mentions the three fold immersion in living or running water.

7:1 But concerning baptism, thus shall ye baptize.
7:2 Having first recited all these things, baptize {in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit} in living (running) water.
7:3 But if thou hast not living water, then baptize in other water;
7:4 and if thou art not able in cold, then in warm.
7:5 But if thou hast neither, then pour water on the head thrice in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
7:6 But before the baptism let him that baptizeth and him that is baptized fast, and any others also who are able;
7:7 and thou shalt order him that is baptized to fast a day or two before.
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Daniel, you finally admit what you believe?
This is pretty much what I surmised on the other thread, and you denied it.

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Well, as far as we know, mikveh/baptism/ritual cleansing was to be done in running water and the person self-immersed three times. That was most likely the method used by John the Baptist, then Jesus, then the followers of Jesus who became the NT church.

This is a quote from The Didache which was written some time between 50 AD and 250 AD (various dates are given). It is part of chapter 15 of the Book of Acts in some Bibles. It mentions the three fold immersion in living or running water.

7:1 But concerning baptism, thus shall ye baptize.
7:2 Having first recited all these things, baptize {in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit} in living (running) water.
7:3 But if thou hast not living water, then baptize in other water;
7:4 and if thou art not able in cold, then in warm.
7:5 But if thou hast neither, then pour water on the head thrice in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
7:6 But before the baptism let him that baptizeth and him that is baptized fast, and any others also who are able;
7:7 and thou shalt order him that is baptized to fast a day or two before.

Welcome Sam!!! We missed you!!!!
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