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Old 07-16-2007, 05:19 PM
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We know about creation from God's word. Aliens aren't mentioned.
Absence of mention, does not mean absence of existence.....does it?
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:21 PM
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The Bible deals with the state of fallen humanity and the redemption of Jesus Christ. Aliens have nothing to do with that. There is no reason for them to be mentioned.
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The Bible deals with the state of fallen humanity and the redemption of Jesus Christ. Aliens have nothing to do with that. There is no reason for them to be mentioned.
Exactly. The only thing we have to go on is our knowledge that there are literally a billion billion plus stars "out there". There may not be life, not even bacterial, OR there may be many thousands of advanced civilizations. If that is the case, it really has no effect on us (for now) because there is no way to contact anyone.
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Not really, this would fall into the same category as the question, "Who did Adam and Eve's kids procreate with?" not saying they were aliens, but just that the possibility that God created other humans that were not mentioned in the bible is possible...
Possible, but not probable. At the time, it was considered ok to procreate with one's sister.
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Absence of mention, does not mean absence of existence.....does it?
So it's ok to believe in things that are absent of mention in the Bible?

But to answer your question, no, it doesn't.

However, that belief creates a problem because it means that we can believe anything we want because 'absence of mention doesn't mean absence of existence'....does it?
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'Aliens' are mentioned in the Bible, quite prominently in fact.
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:55 PM
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I think the presence of aliens goes against the Bible, and thus, if they truly do exist, then God does not, or His Word is untrue.


I pretty much agreed with this point of view for most of my life. However, the either/or dichotomy seems to suggest that we have all the revelation needed to understand and explain the almost infinite cosmos.

When I looked at it that way I felt it to be hubristic of me to continue along those lines. However, as RandyWayne pointed out, the physics of space travel does pretty much appear to eliminate a "Star Trek" type of scenario with a bunch of space faring civilizations.

The distances between the stars are too vast to flit about, unless you use a lot of "make believe." And, given the vast amount of time required for a species to develop even to our relatively "primitive" level, many "alien" civilizations could have risen and fallen, their radio transmissions now long dead, so from our frame of reference it's as if they never effectively existed. And we may die out as well, along with our radio transmissions, long before there's anyone else out there to here us.
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So it's ok to believe in things that are absent of mention in the Bible?
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But to answer your question, no, it doesn't.

However, that belief creates a problem because it means that we can believe anything we want because 'absence of mention doesn't mean absence of existence'....does it?


I probably agree with your conclusion, but I think I followed a different path to get there.

Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that we have been given "all" the data about the universe; and I don't think you were trying to say that either. But to eliminate some areas of belief, like E.T. and the like, just because the Bible doesn't mention them is a bit presumptuous, to me at least.

So I have reasoned, through what I understand of the available science that even if there were E.T.'s - it really doesn't matter because in all likelihood we will never interact with them. Effectively, from the Earth-based point of view, extraterrestrials don't exist. But even that conclusion must be held with some reserve, because as I stated before, we don't have all of the data given to us via revelation; nor does the Bible even make the claim to give us all of the data.
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'Aliens' are mentioned in the Bible, quite prominently in fact.
If you refer to angels, spirits, seraphim, cherubim and etc., the connection is really only coy. If the discussion distinguishes between the supernatural beings of the Bible and the (so far only hypothetical) natural beings of the science fiction genre, then I would say, no. The Bible does not speak of "aliens."
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'Aliens' are mentioned in the Bible, quite prominently in fact.
Mind showing me where?
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