Luke 16:19-31

[loran adkins]

Originally Posted by mfblume

https://www.mikeblume.com/richman.htm

Good stuff you should post it down in the eschatology section

[loran adkins]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Lazarus in the parable is Lazarus, Mary and Martha's brother. (Very likely he is also known as Simon the leper.)

The rich man is the high priest Caiaphas, who had five brothers-in-law who also previously served as priests.

None of them would get right with God even if Lazarus rose from the dead. When Lazarus did in fact rise from the dead, Caiaphas and the "chief priests" sought to have him (Lazarus) killed to stop the spread of his testimony, which was causing people to flock to Jesus.

[coksiw]

Beside very interesting findings exposed here, I think it is very easy to see the teaching that Jesus is trying to teach.
Take into account that nowadays we teach and we reason mainly by the means of propositional logic. Back in those days, propositional logic was used but as much as true-to-life stories (parables) to reason. In those parables, the purpose and emphasis was the reasoning. Sometimes you have to look at the historical context and other deeper investigation to figure out the meaning, so you can get the reasoning. But sometimes it is just straight forward to get the reasoning because the Scripture itself shows you, or gives you plenty of hints right in the passage, without having to understand every single detail.

In this parable:
* Luke 16:19-21: This is a really sharp contrast, explained with vivid language, pretty obvious to see where this is going.
* Luke 16:22-26: The message: where you go when you die, and he got a just judgement after missing the mark (sin) continuously. The previous verses make it clear. Abraham also made clear that nobody can get you out of there.
* Luke 16:27-31: I think the verse 31 says it all.

Point: please consider carefully the Scripture and let it speak to your daily living!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by coksiw

Beside very interesting findings exposed here, I think it is very easy to see the teaching that Jesus is trying to teach.
Take into account that nowadays we teach and we reason mainly by the means of propositional logic. Back in those days, propositional logic was used but as much as true-to-life stories (parables) to reason. In those parables, the purpose and emphasis was the reasoning. Sometimes you have to look at the historical context and other deeper investigation to figure out the meaning, so you can get the reasoning. But sometimes it is just straight forward to get the reasoning because the Scripture itself shows you, or gives you plenty of hints right in the passage, without having to understand every single detail.

In this parable:
* Luke 16:19-21: This is a really sharp contrast, explained with vivid language, pretty obvious to see where this is going.
* Luke 16:22-26: The message: where you go when you die, and he got a just judgement after missing the mark (sin) continuously. The previous verses make it clear. Abraham also made clear that nobody can get you out of there.
* Luke 16:27-31: I think the verse 31 says it all.

Point: please consider carefully the Scripture and let it speak to your daily living!

Good stuff.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by diakonos

In Luke 16:19-31 we read about the rich man who died and went to Hades, while a poor man named Lazarus died and went to Abraham’s side. The rich man asked Abraham to allow Lazarus to bring him a drop of water to cool his tongue. Abraham tells the rich man that it is impossible for Lazarus to cross into Hades.

The rich man then asks Abraham to send Lazarus to his father’s house to warn his brothers not to go to Hades. Abraham tells him that if they will not believe Moses and the prophets -they would not believe a man risen from the dead.

I have some incomplete thoughts here. Feedback welcome.

Going over the text tonight I thought maybe the rich man represents the Pharisees. Not necessarily rich in goods, though they probably were. They were rich because they had the law and the prophets.

Lazarus represents those under the Pharisees... care.

The brothers, also Pharisees, did not believe Moses and the prophets. They also would not believe if someone was risen from the dead, Jesus Christ.

Thoughts?

Amen.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen.

On the right track?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by diakonos

On the right track?

Definitely!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Lazarus in the parable is Lazarus, Mary and Martha's brother. (Very likely he is also known as Simon the leper.)

The rich man is the high priest Caiaphas, who had five brothers-in-law who also previously served as priests.

None of them would get right with God even if Lazarus rose from the dead. When Lazarus did in fact rise from the dead, Caiaphas and the "chief priests" sought to have him (Lazarus) killed to stop the spread of his testimony, which was causing people to flock to Jesus.