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07-10-2018, 08:03 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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So Trintarians don't have the Holy Ghost.  |
Never said that. But I can guarantee you there is no such thing as a trinitarian Holy Ghost.
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07-10-2018, 08:04 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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So much for the woman who received the Holy Ghost in the AG to receive a revelation of “oneness” MANY years later. She resigned her positions in the church and began attending the UPC. She was baptized in Jesus’ name. She raised her children in the Apostolic Church.
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Holy Ghost leads into all truth. If a trinitarian has the real Holy Ghost (yeah I said it) then it WILL lead them to the Apostolic Church.
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07-10-2018, 09:28 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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Holy Ghost leads into all truth. If a trinitarian has the real Holy Ghost (yeah I said it) then it WILL lead them to the Apostolic Church.
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07-10-2018, 09:38 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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Originally Posted by consapente89
Holy Ghost leads into all truth. If a trinitarian has the real Holy Ghost (yeah I said it) then it WILL lead them to the Apostolic Church.
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The INSTANT I got the Holy Ghost, I was Oneness, before I ever heard the term or even met any "Oneness Pentecostals". When I got the Holy Ghost I KNEW it was JESUS CHRIST. A few days later I got invited to a UPC, and had a brother show me Acts 2:38, Isaiah 9:6, and Matthew 28:19, and it made perfect sense to me, because it explained what had happened to me a few days earlier.
I think a lot of trinity pentecostals are trinity in name only, meaning they either don't know any other term (because of tradition) or because their conception of the trinity is either very close to our understanding of Oneness or even identical - they just don't know how to express it. but if you listen to them pray and praise, they often start sounding like they are Oneness through and through.
Then there are the "apologists", rabid trinitarians who seem to think the creeds are divine revelation. THOSE people? I wonder about them...
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07-11-2018, 03:22 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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Holy Ghost leads into all truth. If a trinitarian has the real Holy Ghost (yeah I said it) then it WILL lead them to the Apostolic Church.
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All truth in regard to Acts 2:38. Why is it that people are not led into all truth in regard to prophecy, Christian perfection/maturity., and other areas?
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07-11-2018, 06:48 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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All truth in regard to Acts 2:38. Why is it that people are not led into all truth in regard to prophecy, Christian perfection/maturity., and other areas?
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The Holy Ghost will lead them into as much truth as the individual is willing to walk in.
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07-11-2018, 07:12 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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The Holy Ghost will lead them into as much truth as the individual is willing to walk in.
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07-11-2018, 07:13 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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The INSTANT I got the Holy Ghost, I was Oneness, before I ever heard the term or even met any "Oneness Pentecostals". When I got the Holy Ghost I KNEW it was JESUS CHRIST. A few days later I got invited to a UPC, and had a brother show me Acts 2:38, Isaiah 9:6, and Matthew 28:19, and it made perfect sense to me, because it explained what had happened to me a few days earlier.
I think a lot of trinity pentecostals are trinity in name only, meaning they either don't know any other term (because of tradition) or because their conception of the trinity is either very close to our understanding of Oneness or even identical - they just don't know how to express it. but if you listen to them pray and praise, they often start sounding like they are Oneness through and through.
Then there are the "apologists", rabid trinitarians who seem to think the creeds are divine revelation. THOSE people? I wonder about them... |
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07-11-2018, 07:22 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
So, people can receive the Oneness Holy Ghost in a Trinitarian Church and die there.
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The Holy Ghost will lead them into as much truth as the individual is willing to walk in.
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07-11-2018, 10:38 PM
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Re: They call us holy rollers... ����
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So, people can receive the Oneness Holy Ghost in a Trinitarian Church and die there.
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One Spirit
One spirit of truth who leads into all truth. Some trinitarians who have received a genuine Holy Ghost baptism have been led into Apostolic truth because of it.
Some trinitarians receive a genuine Holy Ghost baptism because of their sincerity towards God, but then do not follow the Holy Ghost OUT of trinitarianism. Eventually God will withdraw his Spirit and the trinitarian will still die and go to hell. I spent quite a bit of time in the AG and I’m pretty convinced at this venue in life that the majority of tongues I heard there were counterfeit.
Yes, people can receive the Holy Ghost and go no further and be lost.
Many more “receive” a counterfeit. There is more flesh tongue talking than there is Holy Ghost tongue talking.
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