Defend your Faith

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Kutless

if you don't want to talk about it just say so brother.

LOL

I will respond this evening okay?

[revrandy]

Paul wrote this...
Galations 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

There was a perverted gospel being preached in Paul's Day and he said...."Let them be accursed"... if you use your anology in your question you would have to justify...Mormons....and many other sects as being accepted by God...

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Paul wrote this...
Galations 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

There was a perverted gospel being preached in Paul's Day and he said...."Let them be accursed"... if you use your anology in your question you would have to justify...Mormons....and many other sects as being accepted by God...

so then lets reverse the question so to speak....who is going to hell then? Which I know how you will answer which in turn puts limitations on God.

What if I changed my analogy to include only KLV Bible teaching sects?

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

LOL

I will respond this evening okay?

bump

[Nahum]

Okay Kutless, IMO, there may be some circumstances where a person who has not followed what we consider the biblical plan of salvation would not be held accountable.

1. A child.
2. A dumb (literally) person.
3. A mentally handicapped person.

I do not know how God will handle those who have never heard of a bible or the Name of Jesus. I do know what Acts 17:30-31 says.

But none of these examples are reason for any American to evade following Acts 2:38. We all have access to the Word.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Okay Kutless, IMO, there may be some circumstances where a person who has not followed what we consider the biblical plan of salvation would not be held accountable.

1. A child.
2. A dumb (literally) person.
3. A mentally handicapped person.

I do not know how God will handle those who have never heard of a bible or the Name of Jesus. I do know what Acts 17:30-31 says.

But none of these examples are reason for any American to evade following Acts 2:38. We all have access to the Word.

That is what the White Throne is for. We preach the ONLY saving message and He does the eternal judging.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

That is what the White Throne is for. We preach the ONLY saving message and He does the eternal judging.

Not true. IN order to defend the doctrine its a must to condemn the likes os Mother Theresa, Billy Graham etc etc to the lake of fire. Our doctrine gives no room for there salvation.

And if that is the way it is then quite sneaking around the "God is the Judge" cop out.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Kutless

Not true. IN order to defend the doctrine its a must to condemn the likes os Mother Theresa, Billy Graham etc etc to the lake of fire. Our doctrine gives no room for there salvation.

And if that is the way it is then quite sneaking around the "God is the Judge" cop out.

Ephesian 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints

John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


John 8:31-32 If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Ephesian 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints

John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


John 8:31-32 If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

point?

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Kutless

Not true. IN order to defend the doctrine its a must to condemn the likes os Mother Theresa, Billy Graham etc etc to the lake of fire. Our doctrine gives no room for there salvation.

And if that is the way it is then quite sneaking around the "God is the Judge" cop out.

They have had every oppurtunity to know the Word as we know it.... it is their choice regardless of how "good" they may be to do with it as we all have done...

Being Good never bought anybody a ticket to heaven.... but knowing HIS Word has..