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Old 10-10-2016, 09:58 PM
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JD - yes voter id laws help Republicans win.
Why?
Because they keep illegal voters from voting.
Did you even bother to read anything I linked?
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:59 PM
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Glen Grothman (R) Wisconsin
"I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up," Grothman said, before volunteering the following: "And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...win/?tid=a_inl


Mike Turzai (R) Pennsylvania
“We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years,” said Turzai in a speech to committee members Saturday. He mentioned the law among a laundry list of accomplishments made by the GOP-run legislature.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation — abortion facility regulations — in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”
https://thinkprogress.org/pennsylvan...772#.8ln1n2x1r


Scott Tranter, a Republican political consultant for Mr. Romney and others, called voter ID laws — and generating long lines at polling places — part of his party's tool kit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us...gain.html?_r=0


The Racism Behind Voter ID Laws
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.baad0fdbae2c
Not one of those quotes even hints at racism or an attempt to suppress voters.

Yes, the Republicans want voter ID laws, and yes those laws will help them. Not by suppressing black votes, but by dealing with voter fraud.

I suggest you read my other post about rampant voter fraud. And which party benefits most from it? The Democrat party. So it only makes sense that eliminating voter fraud will benefit Republicans.
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Re: Voter id laws racist but gun I'd laws not?

The article about WHY new Voter ID laws are racist and being struck down by the Supreme Court will better explain what is going on.
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Re: Voter id laws racist but gun I'd laws not?

New Voter ID laws are being "corrected" or simply struck down all across the country.

Why?

Are judges just making things up as they go?

Are the Supreme Court Justices just misunderstanding the new laws?

Is the political gerrymandering along racial and ideological lines all in our imagination?
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Jito463,
Thank you for the discussion. I appreciate your responses.
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I rarely respond to AFF'ers asking for "proof" because once I go through the hassle of posting "proof", they disappear. Please at least let me know you have seen my "proof".
JD, can you articulate briefly in your own words how requiring a voter to show ID is 'racist'?
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The article about WHY new Voter ID laws are racist and being struck down by the Supreme Court will better explain what is going on.
Explanations like this one?

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Show that today’s cleverly masked voting laws — passed under false pretenses of stopping nonexistent in-person voter fraud — are no different from the tactics used during the Jim Crow era to maintain white political power.
Go read my other thread, then tell me there's no voter fraud. The Washington Compost is a Lieberal rag, of course they're going to push the "racism" agenda against voter ID. They support the Democrats. Heck, they're basically another branch of the Democrat party. Same with the New York Slimes, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PMSNBC, etc. Every one of these are in the tank for the Democrats.
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Jito463,
Thank you for the discussion. I appreciate your responses.
You're welcome. Politics is something I'm very passionate about. I don't just cut and run.
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Did you even bother to read anything I linked?
I read them all...
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New Voter ID laws are being "corrected" or simply struck down all across the country.

Why?

Are judges just making things up as they go?

Are the Supreme Court Justices just misunderstanding the new laws?

Is the political gerrymandering along racial and ideological lines all in our imagination?
Judges are overstepping their constitutional limits, again.
They are using race as their "excuse" for striking down political gerrymandering and any attempt at voter id laws.
And yes many judges are now "making it up".
We are headed the way of Venezuela.
Their Supreme Court has now backed the government on something like 40,000 straight judicial rulings.
Don't worry, we will be there soon enough.
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