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Old 09-21-2016, 05:10 PM
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Re: Hillary Supporters Should Be Worried

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However, today the modern Democratic Party does more to try to address social injustice.
I'd say the modern Democratic Party does more to foment anger and division between races and classes than anything else.

What have Democrats done to bring unity? Nothing. The way they "address" social "injustice" is through division. They haven't done one thing to foster unity. Not one thing.

They're just a bunch of lying, dividing race-baiters. #truth
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:27 PM
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I'd say the modern Democratic Party does more to foment anger and division between races and classes than anything else.

What have Democrats done to bring unity? Nothing. The way they "address" social "injustice" is through division. They haven't done one thing to foster unity. Not one thing.

They're just a bunch of lying, dividing race-baiters. #truth


Add to that, the Dem party doesn't seek to lift people up from their situation, they seek to keep them there. Welfare doesn't inspire people to improve themselves or to reach higher. After all, why try to improve yourself, when the goobermint is more than willing to support you right where you are?

I'm not saying people don't ever get off of welfare and improve themselves, but that's in spite of the system, not because of it.

It's been said that Democrats must really love poor people, because they keep making so many more of them, and it's true. That's what the Dem party platform succeeds best at, keeping people in poverty.



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Old 09-21-2016, 11:22 PM
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Yeah, after serving over 30 years in public life, one tends to acquire a great deal of baggage. How many public offices has Trump held???

Also, my daughter benefited greatly from SCHIP (which was originally a part of "Hillarycare"). So have nearly 8 million other American children. Most likely, even kids in your family and/or the families you know have been served by the funding this program provided.

And let's not even mention Hillary's push to allow families of wounded veterans to claim FMLA when caring for our wounded vets.

What has Donald Trump done for you and those you love?
I'm sorry I'm only now reading this.

First, there are PLENTY of public servants who honorably and admirably serve their country for decades and don't acquire a scintilla of disrepute like that of the Clintons. Shoot---President Obama, the Bushes, President Carter, President Ford, et al haven't come even close to the universe of corruption that is uniquely occupied by Bill and Hillary. There is no way that somehow, some way every area of corruption and deception surrounding the Clintons is the product of conspiracies and political enemies. At some point the weight of evidence demands the verdict that these people are rotten to the core to a degree unparalleled in U.S. history.

Donald Trump is appealing to many Americans in large part because he HASN'T held public office. Americans are weary of the political class, the established politicians who really don't accomplish much except for protecting their own power structure. Washington is a cesspool of incestuous relationships that has failed the common man, motivated by self preservation and enrichment. People aren't supporting Trump because he has done anything for them, it's because the political elites have done very little FOR most Americans, but rather have done much AGAINST most Americans. Big Government is bloated, overreaching, intrusive, counter productive and self defeating. Trump says what many Americans feel. Trump promises to upend the status quo. Trump promises to be decisive and strong. Trump promises to get important things done.

I'm happy for your daughter, that she received the help she needs. If that is your motivation for supporting Hillary, I understand. However, for any good that can be pointed to for the support of Hillary, you have many, many disturbing facts and tendencies that cause many Americans discomfort that this woman will be the most powerful person on the planet. The pattern of selling their influence and pay for play from their days in Little Rock to the Bill Clinton White House, from the Clinton Foundation to the State Department, it seems these people have no conscience, no soul, no moral fiber.

Donald Trump is far from an ideal candidate, but by comparison, there is no question who many Americans will vote for, and I believe he is going to win.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:34 PM
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I agree that he'd be doing far better than Trump. lol

Frankly, I think trump played the deep xenophobic, racist, and fascist impulses found among a significant portion of the Republican electorate against the Republican Party itself to win the Primary. In my opinion his is a campaign of hate, fear, and division.

As for Hillary, I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Primaries. She was definitely not my first pick. But, we're stuck with her. The goal now, defeat Trump and take back the majority in Congress by voting for progressives endorsed by Sanders. That way we can push ahead with the vision and hold Hillary's feet to the fire where she tends to waffle.
What a pile of hooey! Americans that are disturbed that our immigration laws are not being enforced, that foreigners are allowed to enter with very little scrutiny or management, that we aren't trying to encourage aliens to assimilate into the patchwork of our unique culture, AREN'T xenophobic, nor are they racist. They are simply hardworking Americans that believe we are a nation of LAWS and that those laws should be enforced and respected.

Fascism? Pooh. We want smaller government. Fascists want dictatorship. You don't know what you're saying. Invectives and attributing irrational fears to conservatives and Republicans is an old and tired liberal method of opposition without winning in the arena of ideas.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:45 PM
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Why would I think that? I know many fine Republicans. However, every racist I happen to know is Republican or so anti-establishment they even hate the Republicans for not being far right enough.
Then you haven't met the Democrats that I know and am surrounded by. There are MANY racist liberal Democrats.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:10 AM
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We as Democrats would make anyone who thinks that way rather uncomfortable. And they are not welcome to our party.
Judging by the boos at the DNC, neither is God.

I'm don't understand how a Christian can so identify with a Democratic party that is openly anti-God, pro-infanticide, pro-sodomy and all manner of sexual perversion.



Oh right "health care".
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:15 AM
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...his-in-a-week/

Trump is going to win. I've said all along that Hillary is an abysmal candidate. Her baggage is far and above worse than any discomfort that the Donald causes voters.
They're both abysmal. Trump is only slightly less abysmal. I don't want Hillary to win, but I can't really get excited about a Trump presidency. Either way, we're in bad shape. In the end I think Hillary will still win, because liberals will vote for her no matter what. To think they care about her baggage, her outright lies, the suspicious trail of dead bodies of would be informants, her health, or anything else is to assume too much. Liberals don't care.
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:38 AM
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The stupidity. Racists supporting a candidate does not make the candidate a racist.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:34 AM
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Those questions weren't asked of the last great democrat hero... Aka Barack obama
Actually, they were. President Obama was criticized by the GOP as not having enough experience to be President. However, he was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. In 1999, Obama ran for Congress and lost. From 2003 to 2004, served as chair of the Health and Human Services Committee. In 2004 Obama was elected to the US Senate. Obama served in the US Senate until he campaigned and won the Presidential election in 2008.

What I find interesting is.... the GOP criticized Obama for not having enough political experience to be President. Yet, the GOP is now supporting a GOP candidate that has never held political office before in his life. LOL

Hmmm... what's the difference between the two men. Well, the do have different skin tones. And one is a billionaire while the other wasn't. One was married, I believe, three times, one has only been married once. I could go on. But it gets uglier.

But, to answer my questions... I reside in Ohio. Then Senator of Illinois, Barak Obama had done next to nothing for me at the time. But at least he had held public office.

So, I couldn't help but notice, you didn't even answer my questions. You just performed a well trained "re-direct". I'll ask them again:
- How many public offices has Trump held?

- What has Donald Trump done for you and/or those you love?
I'm interested in your answers.

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Old 09-22-2016, 07:43 AM
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I'd say the modern Democratic Party does more to foment anger and division between races and classes than anything else.

What have Democrats done to bring unity? Nothing. The way they "address" social "injustice" is through division. They haven't done one thing to foster unity. Not one thing.

They're just a bunch of lying, dividing race-baiters. #truth
The Democratic Party isn't perfect. However, it has tried to be an advocate for minorities for quite some time now. Many Democrats do foment anger and division, especially on the local levels. Not all Democrats agree with that approach. It's like the abortion issue. When polled, 1 out of 3 Democrats is prolife. The DFLA (Democrats of Life for America) is the largest prolife Democratic lobbying group. Interestingly, most don't know this, but the DFLA presented an agenda known as the 95-10 Initiative, it contained 17 measures wherein the abortion rate could be lowered by 95% within 10 years. Many of these measures were actually included in the ACA. A very positive thing.
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