Republican leaders voting Hillary?

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I never claimed Hillary was a saint. But you never answered the question.

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

I never answered your question, because I've never made the claim that Trump was better than Hillary. Come on, you've seen my posts. Do you really think I believe that?

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No one ever mentions "Bush's Benghazi'"s:

There's no comparison. No one ever said our embassies weren't attacked before, but there's huge differences.

1) There is official records of the ambassador requesting additional security. Those requests were denied by...you guessed it, the SOS (a.k.a. Hillary).

2) There was a several hour gap, in which a rescue force could have been sent in to try and extract the ambassador and his staff. Those rescue forces were told to change uniforms FOUR TIMES, while they sat waiting for the order to go in.

3) Both Hillary and Obama LIED to the American people, and the families of those slain; claiming some internet video was the cause, rather than it being a planned and coordinated terrorist attack.

There is no comparison with the examples you provided.

Besides, Fox News admits that Benghazi is just smoke and mirrors:

If you're going to use Fox to make your case, don't use Shep Smith. He's a massive LIEberal fool. Not everyone on Fox is a conservative.

She's not the first to do all that. Do you realize we'd probably not even have a functioning government if we went after politicians who did these things? Is it corrupt? Yes. Unheard of? Nope.

So, you finally admit she's corrupt, but that you don't care. Yeah, let's not hold our elected officials to a higher standard. Why would we want to do something crazy like that, right? No longer does it matter if they're ethical or moral, it's just a question of whether they'll get prosecuted for their actions. No wonder this country is falling apart.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by n david

You know this as fact, or just think he isn't? The man hasn't released his tax returns, so you can't say for fact he isn't. He has in the past, and even in this race has talked about how great PP is. I would bet he IS still supporting them.

You have zero proof that he is, yet you simply and blindly saying that he is.

Isn't that casting a false accusation?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Aquila

While Hillary definitely has her issues (she's no angel), she can boast that she:

- Served as First Lady of Arkansas
- Served as First Lady of the United States
- Served as Senator of New York
- Served as Secretary of State

Also she can boast that she:

- Was instrumental in pushing SCHIP through to insure over 8 million children.
- Tirelessly fought for first responders to receive necessary care after the 9/11 tragedy.
- Fought for families of deployed military personnel to receive Family Medical Leave.

While there are questions about Hillary Clinton, she can boast of being on the front lines of policies that have indeed helped many millions of Americans.

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

IF Hitlary is better than Trump I'd like to ask:

- How many jobs has she actually created?
When has she ever paid her own way, besides living of Taxpayers money?

he is much better than Hellary, because he has produced actual jobs, instead of sucking money from taxpayers and also from special interests groups some from other countries, like Shrillary has done all these years.

[n david]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

You have zero proof that he is, yet you simply and blindly saying that he is.

Isn't that casting a false accusation?

In the debates and in at least one interview, he defended PP and stated they help and do good things for millions of women. That's why I stand by my statement that I believe he's still supporting PP. No false accusation when the man publicly praises the murderous organization.

You have zero proof he's not.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Regarding "Bush's Benghazi's" -- not even comparable to Hillary's Benghazi.

First Ambassador killed since 1979.

An Ambassador who knew the risks and served his post. President Bush is lucky no Ambassadors were killed during his own "Benghazi's". The point is, Hillary didn't respond to Benghazi any differently than Bush responded to other embassies under attack.

The massive amount of cover up which happened to try and pretend it was not a terrorist attack is incredible.

There was a lot of confusion over the attack. Were they rebels? Actual military forces? Terrorists? In addition to anything classified going on in that area. We also don't know why the powers that be (because more than Hillary was on-board this) felt a cover-up might be necessary. You and I aren't privy to enough information to make an absolutely certain judgment.

Like I said, in 50 years there will be a PBS Frontline titled, "Benghazi". And this documentary will no doubt disclose a lot of information we don't know about the event. So, you can make judgments on the issue knowing that you don't have ALL of the information. I was military. I know how FUBAR these things get. I'll refrain from judgment.

One of the major reasons to vote against Hillary is because of her "experience," not to mention the tsunami of scandals and death which she leaves behind.

Every politician has issues. And the longer they are in politics, the more issues are available to pick from. I know that Hillary is no saint. And I didn't vote for her in the Primaries. So please don't think I'm all that thrilled by having to defend her.

But again, no one answered my questions.

- What public office has Dump held?
- What has Rump done for the American people?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Not a Trump supporter, but...

1) He hasn't worked as a gubbamint employee at all. Yuge plus right there. Last thing we need is another federal parasite.

You mean that he's never held public office, therefore, he has no political experience.

2) He has given them hope that maybe we can break free of the globalist stranglehold on our nation.

The man's already giving Putin the "Monica Treatment". And that means, their love affair will play out in the UN Security Council. You're going to see MORE geo-political agendas that shaft American interests, not less.

Will he be a dud? Who knows? With Cankles we're going off the rails fo sho. With Cankles there very well may not BE an America to worry about.

Ummmm... Do I have to remind you that Rump inquired about using nuclear weapons during foreign policy briefings three times? When the adults present discreetly explained why we can't use nukes to our aspiring, "Cowboy and Chief", he then asked why we have the weapons if we can't use them! Dude, the man is a loose cannon who is itching to use nuclear weapons. Guess what? Donald Dump hasn't even won the office yet and our enemies are already chattering about the repositioning of their nukes and the need to prepare to respond to a strike from the United States. In just two short months, we might be on the brink of a REAL international nuclear crisis. I know for a fact you're intelligent enough to have never asked that question. Rump is clearly a sheltered billionaire idiot who has no clue as to how important his words and actions are if he wants the Presidency.

Hillary, on the other hand plays political hardball. Putin hates her because she's already stared him down as Secretary of State and addressed the fact that he's a soulless dictator. She scares the ........ out of Putin because he knows she'll solidly continue to support the NATO alliance. The only people who think there might not be an "America to worry about" are the same tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nuts who feel it is their duty to warn everyone on Facebook that Obama's going to secure a third term! LOL

With Trump, we get a little more time for the smart people to brace for impact. With Cankles it's impact in t minus 130 odd days. Got milk?

I'm beginning to think Trump was right about one thing. He could randomly shoot a man in broad daylight on 5th Avenue and his supporters would still vote for him. Because you got it all wrong. The Obama Administration has already had to assure the global community that Trump's words and actions don't reflect the U.S. policy with regards to approaching foreign affairs. Thank President Obama, he's already cleaning up Trump's messes and he hasn't even won the election yet. LOL

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

I never answered your question, because I've never made the claim that Trump was better than Hillary. Come on, you've seen my posts. Do you really think I believe that?

And that is because of the simple fact that Trump isn't better than Hillary.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

There's no comparison. No one ever said our embassies weren't attacked before, but there's huge differences.

1) There is official records of the ambassador requesting additional security. Those requests were denied by...you guessed it, the SOS (a.k.a. Hillary).

2) There was a several hour gap, in which a rescue force could have been sent in to try and extract the ambassador and his staff. Those rescue forces were told to change uniforms FOUR TIMES, while they sat waiting for the order to go in.

3) Both Hillary and Obama LIED to the American people, and the families of those slain; claiming some internet video was the cause, rather than it being a planned and coordinated terrorist attack.

There is no comparison with the examples you provided.

And you can't smell that there was obviously something going on that we're not privy to? I was in the military for 8 years. When strange decisions are made at the highest levels of command, they tie your hands, and then tell the American people load of garbage... it smells like they no something we don't know.

If you're going to use Fox to make your case, don't use Shep Smith. He's a massive LIEberal fool. Not everyone on Fox is a conservative.

Conservative or not, Smith was definitive.

So, you finally admit she's corrupt, but that you don't care.

Do you always show up a day late and dollar short? I said in the beginning that I know that Hillary is no saint. I even voiced that she wasn't my first choice. So how can you say that I "finally" admit that she's corrupt? lol

Yeah, let's not hold our elected officials to a higher standard. Why would we want to do something crazy like that, right?

You mean let's insure that they can't buy a party nomination and let's hold them accountable for racial slurs and insinuations. Let's hold them accountable for encouraging a foreign power to hack party networks and congressional networks? Hold them accountable for recklessly discussing the use of nuclear weapons in briefings? Hold them accountable for not paying their debts? Rap accusations? Numerous bankruptcies? High priced university scams? Exploiting fear to generate hatred for religious minorities and refugees fleeing the evil's of ISIS? Not having a single coherent policy position other than, "You're gonna love it!", like he's selling car wax on late night television? LOL

I have to give Trump credit though, his wife is very... photogenic. lol

No longer does it matter if they're ethical or moral, it's just a question of whether they'll get prosecuted for their actions. No wonder this country is falling apart.

Hey, maybe you should write in Mr. Rogers. No, he's not all that moral either.

I'm not thrilled with either candidate. But Hillary is far more qualified, has far more experience, already knows international leaders, has had a First Lady's view of the duties of the President, knows that you have to break a few eggs if you're going to bake a cake, and has the guts to break them.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

You have zero proof that he is, yet you simply and blindly saying that he is.

Isn't that casting a false accusation?

"They call him, Flipper....."