Comparing Trump to Hitler

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The Obama Administration has targeted and deported criminals-- more so than any other recent President before him.

The wording of your article is tricky. Your article talks about illegal immigrants who, "are settled and working in America".

Did you even read the article?

"One problem is the continued use of "deportation" in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were "excluded," or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were "deported," or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called "removal." At that point, the term "deportation" no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion."

"The large number of immigrants who are apprehended, usually but not exclusively along the southwestern border, and prevented from entering the country were part of a category called "voluntary departure" before 2006. Now that is called "return," which also includes the subcategory of "reinstatement." There is also a large category of "expedited removals" of persons that do not appear before an immigration judge but the procedure carries all the sanctions as a judge ordered removal."

"Thus comparing the deportation statistics across different presidential administrations is dicey because it is unclear what categories of people are actually being counted and categorized. Moreover, different administrations choose to emphasize different statistics. Dara Lind notes that the Bush administration seems to have reported removals and returns together, but Obama's administration has emphasized only its number of removals."

"Meanwhile, many media reports continue to use the term "deportation" when they mean either return or removal or some subset of those. The Department of Homeland Security that issues official statistics must now try to retrofit new legal categories to old data, and even it cannot excise the term deportation altogether because pre-1996, there were, in fact, deportations."

"This confusion enables political spin, too. If you want to portray Obama as weak on enforcement, use the removal numbers, which, compared to his predecessors, are lower. If you want to make Obama look tougher on enforcement, combine the return and removal numbers (like George W. Bush apparently did) or use the now meaningless "deportation"; both moves would conflate return and removal -- and boost the overall number of expulsions."

It's like the employment numbers...a bunch of lies.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Did you even read the article?

"One problem is the continued use of "deportation" in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were "excluded," or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were "deported," or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called "removal." At that point, the term "deportation" no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion."

"The large number of immigrants who are apprehended, usually but not exclusively along the southwestern border, and prevented from entering the country were part of a category called "voluntary departure" before 2006. Now that is called "return," which also includes the subcategory of "reinstatement." There is also a large category of "expedited removals" of persons that do not appear before an immigration judge but the procedure carries all the sanctions as a judge ordered removal."

"Thus comparing the deportation statistics across different presidential administrations is dicey because it is unclear what categories of people are actually being counted and categorized. Moreover, different administrations choose to emphasize different statistics. Dara Lind notes that the Bush administration seems to have reported removals and returns together, but Obama's administration has emphasized only its number of removals."

"Meanwhile, many media reports continue to use the term "deportation" when they mean either return or removal or some subset of those. The Department of Homeland Security that issues official statistics must now try to retrofit new legal categories to old data, and even it cannot excise the term deportation altogether because pre-1996, there were, in fact, deportations."

"This confusion enables political spin, too. If you want to portray Obama as weak on enforcement, use the removal numbers, which, compared to his predecessors, are lower. If you want to make Obama look tougher on enforcement, combine the return and removal numbers (like George W. Bush apparently did) or use the now meaningless "deportation"; both moves would conflate return and removal -- and boost the overall number of expulsions."

It's like the employment numbers...a bunch of lies.

Yes.

There is nothing that disputes the over 2 million actual deportations that occurred under the Obama Administration.

Read the other articles and you will see the source of the spin-- "deportations" vs. "returns at the border". GWB had more "returns at the border" (which I didn't know until this thread) but Obama has deported through official "deportation" proceedings than any other President in recent history.

It just doesn't fit your narrative of Obama to know that he did this-- but he has been REPEATEDLY criticized by people on the far left for his deportation record.