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Old 11-10-2015, 11:48 PM
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Re: Republican Debate - 11/10/15

Newsmax also has Trump as #1 and Cruz coming in 2nd. Pretty much the same all around, thus far.

I think they will bump Chris Christie back up to the top tier. The GOP Establishment needs him, and Trump wants him back. LOL!
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Re: Republican Debate - 11/10/15

Heard Bill Kristol commenting on the audience not being where the electorate is. That was also my impression.
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Here is where Cavuto wouldn't allow Cruz to talk about the lie on Climate Change. They cut him off in the CNBC debate as well. Hmmmm.


CRUZ: ...Our -- our...

CAVUTO: ...Alright, gentlemen, I know you want to -- and I want to, be we also promised to get people home tonight, and we are going to take a quick break here. I think it is fair to say at this juncture that you can discuss these issues, and only business issues, but still keep it interesting. Stick around for these candidates closing statements.
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Re: Republican Debate - 11/10/15

Trump and Carson didn't shine, but held their own. Cruz is underated, but was brilliant. Rubio didn't do as well as I thought. Kasich is over, and Bush is done. I used to really like Rand and am glad he did a better job tonight. He won't win, but he's a likeable guy. Carly, ugh - just go away, you Establishment hack. Just sayin'....

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Re: Republican Debate - 11/10/15

Ted Cruz said he would end HUD on national television?
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Ted Cruz said he would end HUD on national television?
ICYMI: Cruz in National Review Op-Ed: Five for Freedom

Bringing government spending under control.


HOUSTON, Texas – Today, Presidential candidate Ted Cruz published an op-ed in National Review outlining his plan to eliminate four federal departments and the IRS, and get government spending under control. The details of the full plan can be found at TedCruz.org.

Five for Freedom
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Ted Cruz

At the last Republican Presidential debate, I presented the Simple Flat Tax – which, for a family of four, exempts the first $36,000 from all income tax, and then above that collects one low rate of 10 percent for all Americans; eliminates the Death Tax, the payroll tax, the corporate income tax, and the Obamacare taxes; ends the corporate carve-outs and loopholes; and requires every business to pay the same simple Business Flat Tax of 16 percent. That plan unleashes unprecedented growth, creates millions of new jobs, raises after-tax incomes for all income levels by double-digit percentages – and it abolishes the IRS as we know it.

But eliminating the IRS is only the first step in my plan to break apart the federal leviathan that has ruled Washington and crept into our lives. We can’t stop there. In addition to eliminating the IRS, a Cruz Administration will abolish four cabinet agencies as well. And we will sharply reduce the alphabet soup of government entities, beginning with the ABCs that should not exist in the first place: The Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions, and other programs that are constitutionally illegitimate and harmful to American households and businesses. It’s time to return to a federal government that abides by our constitutional framework and strips power from unelected bureaucrats.

The need is urgent. The total federal debt currently stands at $18.6 trillion, larger than our entire economy. That is up 75 percent since the President took office, and by the end of his tenure, he is expected to have added almost as much to the national debt as all past presidents combined.

And what does the Obama Administration have to show for its uncontrolled spending? A stagnant economy, lagging job creation, and the lowest labor-force participation since the Carter Administration. The Obama economy has burdened each American household with the equivalent of $57,000 of federal debt. Under such stifling circumstances, it’s no wonder that 84 percent of college graduates do not have a job lined up after graduation, and 13.2 percent of young adults are out of work. The current level of spending is not only irresponsible, but immoral and unjust to future generations.

It is time for bold change. Change that stops Washington from squandering Americans’ money; that creates jobs and restores growth with a single, fair, low rate for everyone; that reins in Washington’s costly regulations; that honors the people’s work with the dignity it deserves; and that finally gets the government out of our pockets and off our backs.

Of course, because entitlements constitute roughly two-thirds of federal spending, no government spending plan is complete without addressing entitlement reform. And in the coming months, I will be laying out a detailed plan to do just that, to strengthen and preserve Social Security and Medicare and to ensure their fiscal strength for decades to come. But we should start with federal discretionary spending.

First, to begin the process of reducing the scope and cost of government, I have identified the Five for Freedom: During my first year as President, I will fight to abolish the IRS, the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, the Department of Commerce, and the Department of Housing and Urban Development. To do that, I will press Congress relentlessly. And I will appoint heads of each of those agencies whose central charge will be to lead the effort to wind them down and determine whether any programs need to be preserved elsewhere because they fall within the proper purview of the federal government. I do not anticipate lists to be long.

The IRS and these cabinet agencies are unnecessary and will be shuttered for the following reasons:

The Internal Revenue Service– to dramatically simplify the tax code and enable everyone to fill out their taxes on a postcard or smartphone app.
Department of Education – to return education to those who know our students best: parents, teachers, local communities, and states. And to block-grant education funding to the states.
Department of Energy – to cut off the Washington Cartel, stop picking winners and losers, and unleash the energy renaissance.
Department of Commerce – to close the “congressional cookie jar” and promote free-enterprise and free trade for every business.
Department of Housing and Urban Development – to offer real solutions that lift people out of hardship, rather than trapping families in a cycle of poverty, and to return authority to the states by block-granting the lion’s share of the remaining programs, such as Section 8 housing.

Second, besides these unnecessary cabinet agencies and the IRS, we will sharply reduce the alphabet soup of government entities, beginning with the “ABC”s that should not exist in the first place: The Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions, and other programs that are constitutionally illegitimate and harmful to American households and businesses – including the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Together with the four departments and the IRS, our conservative estimate of the effects of these eliminations and reductions is a savings of over $500 billion over ten years. And that’s just a start. The true savings – of scaling down the scope of the federal government, of restoring the rightful authority to the states, and of unleashing the people’s ingenuity – cannot be measured by a number. We are uprooting the centralized power that we have lived under for far too long.

Third, we will bring back a proven approach from the prosperous days of the Reagan Administration: a private sector panel to assess federal spending levels and evaluate areas of waste and fraud for removal. At President Reagan’s behest, the Grace Commission recommended 2,478 “cost-cutting, revenue-enhancing” suggestions, without raising taxes, weakening defense, or harming social welfare. It was a major success among other polices that created a great economic boom, and it deserves a reprise.

Fourth, we will hold Congress accountable; it too often relegates its authority to unelected bureaucrats. We will enact a strong Balanced Budget Amendment. And, by enacting the REINS Act, we will require that a majority of members approve any major, cost-inducing regulations.

Fifth, we will put in place a hiring freeze of federal civilian employees across the executive branch. For those agencies in which it is determined that a vacant position needs to be filled, I will authorize the hiring of a maximum ratio of one person for every three who leave. And rather than automatically increasing federal workers’ pay annually, workers will have more opportunities for merit-based pay increases.

The full details of this plan can be found at www.tedcruz.org. It’s past time to dramatically reduce the size of government and restore congressional accountability to the People. Doing so, along with instituting fundamental tax reform and regulatory reform, will reignite the promise that has made this the freest and most prosperous nation in the world.

Ted Cruz is U.S. Senator from Texas and a Republican candidate for President.

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-c...e-for-freedom/
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...z-five-freedom


Lord, what a long night! I'm done! We put out so much information today before the debate. Had several switch to Cruz today!
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Re: Republican Debate - 11/10/15

PO, Ted Cruz is one of the few candidates I can see from the Republican side that could lose the national election. And that's just from the few snippets I've seen on this thread.

He's got a snowballs chance in you know where. IMO.
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Re: Republican Debate - 11/10/15

After having watched all the debates, I'm leaning more and more toward Cruz. I believe he stands for what most conservative Americans stand for. I just don't know how he would be in a debate with Hillary...they all seem to be itching to debate her! That woman is the smoothest politician ever! To listen to her, you feel like you could be sitting across the table from her, having a cup of coffee! It's scary, how convincing she can sound! So I'm kinda worried for whoever ends up taking her on...
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After having watched all the debates, I'm leaning more and more toward Cruz. I believe he stands for what most conservative Americans stand for. I just don't know how he would be in a debate with Hillary...they all seem to be itching to debate her! That woman is the smoothest politician ever! To listen to her, you feel like you could be sitting across the table from her, having a cup of coffee! It's scary, how convincing she can sound! So I'm kinda worried for whoever ends up taking her on...
Yeah, I agree! Cruz sure can talk. But Hillary is the folksy, cookie-baking queen!
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Yeah, I agree! Cruz sure can talk. But Hillary is the folksy, cookie-baking queen!
Yes...and if we didn't know so much about her, it would be easy to believe all her lies!
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