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Old 11-09-2015, 12:29 PM
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Re: God's "holy hill"?

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Think about it Mike,

Tell me one church that was built on the message of Eschatology and survived.

None!

But the church is built on the Rock Christ Jesus. The belief that Jesus is living in me and will one day come for me to live with Him forever.

Giving me the ability to walk a new life, forgiving my sins....
Who says we build a church on eschatology? But that's no excuse to say we cannot know the truth of prophecy. If you saw my weekly sermons you'd see nothing but the work of the cross. Not prophecy.
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Who says we build a church on eschatology? But that's no excuse to say we cannot know the truth of prophecy. If you saw my weekly sermons you'd see nothing but the work of the cross. Not prophecy.

He tried to watch them, but couldn't help nodding off...LOL
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:07 PM
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He tried to watch them, but couldn't help nodding off...LOL
Sort of like you reading a book, eh? LOL
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One of the most precious sermons the Lord ever gave me is about Psalm 2 and how it's fulfilled in Acts 2.

Watched and listened the other night. Still ruminating. Initial comments? I agree with just about everything I heard you say and/or teach.

Thanks for sharing!
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Sort of like you reading a book, eh? LOL


Good one,,,LOL
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Sort of like you reading a book, eh? LOL
Yeah, the book called the Bible. Sean uses it to put himself to sleep. Haven't you noticed? He is't even awake when he is posting in these threads.
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Think about it Mike,

Tell me one church that was built on the message of Eschatology and survived.

None!

But the church is built on the Rock Christ Jesus. The belief that Jesus is living in me and will one day come for me to live with Him forever.

Giving me the ability to walk a new life, forgiving my sins....
Christ built and is building His church in large part on eschatology, or last things. One of His predominant characteristics was that Jesus was an apocalyptic preacher who heralded the coming of a new age (i.e. the Kingdom of God) and the END of an old era (i.e. Temple Judaism), something which signified a real "end of the world" as far as the Jews in Judah and Israel were concerned:

See, when God foretold the first destruction of the temple, and an exile, He promised unequivocably to bring Israel back and restore the temple.

When Jesus foretold the second destruction of the temple, and an exile, He NEVER promised a return or a restoration. Biblical Israel (as opposed to secular Israel) hasn't existed since 70AD. Benyamin Netanyahu can quote the Bible in whatever UN speech, but there is no king of Israel, no priesthood, no temple, no real observance of the law, no prophets, nothing. Biblical Israel was wiped from the map by God.

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Eschatology is the study of "Last Things", not just prophecy, and certainly not just the end of the world.

Therefore, it also needs to include resurrection from the dead and eternal judgment, which are principle doctrines of Christ.
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Old 11-11-2015, 06:53 AM
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Yeah, the book called the Bible. Sean uses it to put himself to sleep. Haven't you noticed? He is't even awake when he is posting in these threads.


Mikes, videos and books are called "awake".


The more we view them, the sleepier we get....LOL
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Old 11-11-2015, 06:55 AM
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Christ built and is building is church in large part on eschatology, or last things. One of His predominant characteristics was that Jesus was an apocalyptic preacher who heralded the coming of a new age (i.e. the Kingdom of God) and the END of an old era (i.e. Temple Judaism), something which signified a real "end of the world" as far as the Jews in Judah and Israel were concerned:

See, when God foretold the first destruction of the temple, and an exile, He promised unequivocably to bring Israel back and restore the temple.

When Jesus foretold the second destruction of the temple, and an exile, He NEVER promised a return or a restoration. Biblical Israel (as opposed to secular Israel) hasn't existed since 70AD. Benyamin Netanyahu can quote the Bible in whatever UN speech, but there is no king of Israel, no priesthood, no temple, no real observance of the law, no prophets, nothing. Biblical Israel was wiped from the map by God.

Furthermore,

Eschatology is the study of "Last Things", not just prophecy, and certainly not just the end of the world.

Therefore, it also needs to include resurrection from the dead and eternal judgment, which are principle doctrines of Christ.


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Watched and listened the other night. Still ruminating. Initial comments? I agree with just about everything I heard you say and/or teach.

Thanks for sharing!
I risked looking as though I was wanting everyone to see me preach. But it was the best way I could relate my thoughts. I got into more of that issue in another study that took Solomon's dedication of the temple with his reiteration of the words of David from one of the Psalms. It's the same thought taken further. It's all about the current church.
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