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05-22-2015, 09:26 AM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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LOL!! That is my favorite quote from you. I have used it for years in conversations.
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Tis true I have always been considered liberal by some and an ultra con by others.
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05-22-2015, 09:41 AM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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I find no fault with the church represented just never considered it a conservative church?
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What do you consider 'not conservative' about the represented church?
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05-23-2015, 09:10 PM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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What do you consider 'not conservative' about the represented church?
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I will let Elder Epley answer for himself but keep in mind for an ultra con it doesn't take much for them to consider someone not conservative. Here are just a few things that would make them not conservative;
- If your church allows short sleeves above the elbow
- If your church uses video cameras / DVD's / Video Monitors
- If the pastor allows members to own televisions
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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05-23-2015, 10:04 PM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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Originally Posted by CC1
I will let Elder Epley answer for himself but keep in mind for an ultra con it doesn't take much for them to consider someone not conservative. Here are just a few things that would make them not conservative;
- If your church allows short sleeves above the elbow
- If your church uses video cameras / DVD's / Video Monitors
- If the pastor allows members to own televisions
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CC1 it looks as if you have a case of PTSD?
Pentecostal Stress Disorder?
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05-23-2015, 10:24 PM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
Who defines "conservative"?
Is that word in the Bible? Did the apostles extol the virtues of being either conservative, or liberal, or moderate?
Whatever happened to just being BIBLICAL?
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05-23-2015, 10:34 PM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Who defines "conservative"?
Is that word in the Bible? Did the apostles extol the virtues of being either conservative, or liberal, or moderate?
Whatever happened to just being BIBLICAL?
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You mean, NO XMAS presents??????
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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05-23-2015, 10:42 PM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
You mean, NO XMAS presents??????
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lol I once worked for a Jewish supervisor who told me he puts up a Hanukkah tree every year.
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05-23-2015, 11:01 PM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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lol I once worked for a Jewish supervisor who told me he puts up a Hanukkah tree every year.
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My Aunt Idelle had a Hanukkah tree, complete with little barn house, which had statues of a cow, donkey, mother, father, little baby in a nest, and a winged Nike holding a banner saying "Joy."
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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05-24-2015, 11:08 AM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
CC1 it looks as if you have a case of PTSD?
Pentecostal Stress Disorder?
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LOL!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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05-24-2015, 11:48 AM
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Re: Conservative Apostolic Churches in Saint Louis
Not familiar any more with St Louis (( nearly 40 yrs since we moved)) but there are many UPC and other Apostolic groups in the area.
The Sanctuary has a good reputation. Know several families that go to this church,
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