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Old 03-11-2015, 03:27 PM
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Re: Southern University Racism Alive

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They call themselves rebels.
You also need a history lesson. They were given that label by the north, just as the Crown gave the same label to the Colonies. The Southerners took what was meant as an insult and wore it as a badge of honor.
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:28 PM
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Because of the south's history.
The north has always been far more racist than the South. Why ignore their history?
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:31 PM
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You also need a history lesson. They were given that label by the north, just as the Crown gave the same label to the Colonies. The Southerners took what was meant as an insult and wore it as a badge of honor.
Kinda like the n word. I still hate that word and don't use that word.
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:38 PM
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Nope.

People were not hung from trees and burned alive at the same time while singing, "Glory Glory Hallelujah".

Bro, the south has a TERRIBLE HISTORY and many attrocities were carried out by people waving the stars and bars with pride.

I can't help but associate the confederate rag with the Jim Crow south, racial hatred and lynchings.

When I see that thing, that's what I see and think of.

It's a symbol of hate.
Again, you've been lied to as to the racial history of the North. There were many atrocities committed by Union soldiers against the slaves. The GOP was not so much the "anti-slavery party" as much as it was the "anti-slave/negro party". True abolitionists were a small minority. True egalitarians were an even smaller minority.

I do not say these things against you personally or any way in anger. I really don't blame you because we all believed at one time the "history" that was dished out to us by the establishment. Nor do I deny the south's racial history (though only one side is usually told). But when one takes the time to study and research for themselves, different conclusions are drawn.

BTW, I am not a fanatic of the Confederacy. The CSA was an incidental anomaly. It was merely the hub that 13 sovereign States revolved around, just like the old Union is the hub 50 States revolve around. The CSA and South did not invent the concept of State sovereignty or secession. Those concepts were embraced radically by the northern States well into the 1850's.
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:47 PM
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Great!

Then you both should be able to see very plainly how deeply that flag offends.
I think it is just as bigoted to not tell all sides of a story and automatically label those who love the St. Andrew's cross to be racists. The modern KKK waves the American flag and Christian flag just as much as they do CSA flags. They are hijackers.

But personally I'm not into waving Confederate flags and such all that much. The States that formed the Confederacy are still around. To me they are far more important than the confederation they once briefly held together apart from the USA. I honor the States. They are sovereignties, each one a republic. They draw their sovereignty , each one, from the true sovereigns who inhabit their borders, the people. We make a grave error when we exalt the Union above the States. I do not believe our Founders wanted the Union to break up. But nor did they want union at the expense of State sovereignty. Today the States are subjugated provinces of a consolidated central power. One city rules 50 States and 300 million people. This is not the form of Union given to us by the Founders and no State should be forced to submit to it.

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Old 03-14-2015, 09:43 AM
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Numerous? Ok. I don't agree with you. Even if I did, wrong will always be wrong.
Jermyn, I know it is painful to accept, but it is the truth. I'm glad you are not that way and I do not think the majority of blacks agree with these racist attacks.

Below are links to videos that only made the local news where the events happened. Had these attacks been white on black, it would have made the world news. White lives do not matter....













There are dozens more.

Jermyn, be honest with yourself. This does not make the national news because there is a false narrative the media wants to maintain. Yet when white frat boys are recorded just saying something ugly about black people, the world press flocks to spread the word. Why, Jermyn?

Here's one the national media did cover, but only to try to convince everyone the attack was not racially motivated......


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