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Old 03-18-2015, 10:11 AM
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A thought occurred to me while watching the webcast of Christian Life Center Stockton this morning. During the announcements they announced their Sunday evening service was at their other location (the old church campus). I knew they had their midweek service at the older smaller building but didn't realize they also had a Sunday night service there.

Based on the limited view I had this morning of the congregation and the views I have had of it before it appears to me that the new building is mostly empty on Sunday morning. I have been told it seats around 5,000 and it looks like at most there are 1,500 people there. If I recall correctly the old sanctuary seated about 3,000 people? Somebody who knows please confirm or correct me.

In any case it appears that the Sunday morning congregation would easily fit in the old sanctuary. Unless I am wrong in that thought my question is why doesn't the church sell the new Sanctuary and property if it is not needed? Clearly they have not seen the growth they anticipated when it was built years ago. The cost of operating and maintaining two large locations must be consdierable.
Was there for a funeral on Friday 3-13-15 I think there was about 2000 at the old church and parking was hard to come by.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:20 PM
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Honestly not having your own building is a strange concept to me? I guess I am way old.
No, you're just way too non-biblical. No one had a building in the early church.
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Old 03-20-2015, 04:18 PM
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No, you're just way too non-biblical. No one had a building in the early church.
How do you know they didn't? I am just curious. At what point did Christians start having buildings?
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Re: One More CLC Stockton Question

Synagogues began during the exile. When the Jews returned to Israel, they brought the synagogue idea with them.

Since Christianity has Jewish roots, it is not shocking to see that Christianity has worship buildings not unlike synagogues.
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When Elder Haney decided to build it, he went to headquarters and turned it over to his son Nathaniel.

If elder Haney would not have went to headquarters and stayed there, the church would have probably doubled.

The old sanctuary seats possibly 1800 when packed....

We were there over 20 years and helped in several building projects.

The problem I have with Nathaniel is he is not diplomatic with those with differing viewpoints. He said one too many times.."if you dont agree with me, just leave"....well many folks JUST LEFT!

Elder Haney would be diplomatic and fight for your allegiance, even come to your house...also, he never forgot your name, no matter who you were.
Sad to say but Sean speaks the truth!
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