Islam: A Religion of Lies...

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The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.

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I don't care much for Bill Mahor but he actually has a pretty good arguments on Islam

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Originally Posted by MarcBee

Yahweh encourages stoning one's son if he gets disobedient, and at times slaying other nations who don't accept the Yahweh thing. It is the bible. I will get the quotes.

I'm talking about the sanctioning of outright lying. Yes, God did give ancient Israel stringent laws that included the death penalty. However, the God of the Bible has established various covenants. In Islam, God is very much still back on the bronze age with His approach to man.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.

Deplorable.

However, even in Christian countries a father used to be able to discipline both his wife and his children should they be absolutely disobedient.

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Originally Posted by MarcBee

Yahweh encourages stoning one's son if he gets disobedient, and at times slaying other nations who don't accept the Yahweh thing. It is the bible. I will get the quotes.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't care much for Bill Mahor but he actually has a pretty good arguments on Islam

I've heard some of his thoughts. While I don't agree with him on most things, I do find myself agreeing with many of his thoughts regarding Islam.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.

That's disgusting.

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Originally Posted by MarcBee

Yahweh encourages stoning one's son if he gets disobedient, and at times slaying other nations who don't accept the Yahweh thing. It is the bible. I will get the quotes.

In context, Deut 21:20 shows that the “boy” was a “grown man” who was stubborn, rebellious, will not obey his parents, who is a glutton and a drunkard.

The Law required that “both” parents be in agreement, bringing the child to the elders of the city. The elders judge the matter according to the Law of Moses, i.e., Exodus 20:12; Exo. 21:15, Exo. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.

This isn’t much different than a policeman apprehending a suspect, bringing him to the courts for judgment and sentencing. Apparently, this “grown man” was a nuisance to society.

Today, we have the media and families calling a “thug” a gentle giant and vocally crying out against the policeman who put him down because he was a nuisance and danger to society, i.e. Ferguson, MO.

And who were these heathen nations that Israel fought against in order to survive as a nation?

They were nations who were killing children in human/child sacrifice, who were forcing young men and women into perverted sexual rituals to worship false gods who were” made of silver and gold, made by human hands, mouths that cannot speak, eyes that cannot see, ears that cannot hear, no breath in their mouths. And those that make them will be like them, and so will all who trust in them.” Psalm 135:15-18

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

In context, Deut 21:20 shows that the “boy” was a “grown man” who was stubborn, rebellious, will not obey his parents, who is a glutton and a drunkard.

The Law required that “both” parents be in agreement, bringing the child to the elders of the city. The elders judge the matter according to the Law of Moses, i.e., Exodus 20:12; Exo. 21:15, Exo. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.

This isn’t much different than a policeman apprehending a suspect, bringing him to the courts for judgment and sentencing. Apparently, this “grown man” was a nuisance to society.

Today, we have the media and families calling a “thug” a gentle giant and vocally crying out against the policeman who put him down because he was a nuisance and danger to society, i.e. Ferguson, MO.

And who were these heathen nations that Israel fought against in order to survive as a nation?

They were nations who were killing children in human/child sacrifice, who were forcing young men and women into perverted sexual rituals to worship false gods who were” made of silver and gold, made by human hands, mouths that cannot speak, eyes that cannot see, ears that cannot hear, no breath in their mouths. And those that make them will be like them, and so will all who trust in them.” Psalm 135:15-18

Right on, sister!

That ruse Marcbee used is like the punchline saying the Bible condones slavery. In actuality, the Bible was speaking of the nations of Canaan that Israel invaded who were sacrificing their children to idols in the fire, and that sort of ilk, and the survivors of the massacre that was well deserving to those human sacrificing animals was imprisonment amongst Israel in the form of slavery. It was not slavery like the filth-spewing world is trying to imply when they quote these biblical passages. It was more imprisonament in a day when they had no such prisons as we do.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Right on, sister!

That ruse Marcbee used is like the punchline saying the Bible condones slavery. In actuality, the Bible was speaking of the nations of Canaan that Israel invaded who were sacrificing their children to idols in the fire, and that sort of ilk, and the survivors of the massacre that was well deserving to those human sacrificing animals was imprisonment amongst Israel in the form of slavery. It was not slavery like the filth-spewing world is trying to imply when they quote these biblical passages. It was more imprisonament in a day when they had no such prisons as we do.

Exactly! We must study further when reading a passage. God has a purpose and doesn't contradict His own Word.


Ezekiel 18:23 "Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?"